I liked Tom Hank’s statement better. He tweeted yesterday “Remember, there’s no crying in baseball!”. But maybe I’m old…that movie was about 30 years ago..
Bob From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Supratim Sanyal Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:36 AM To: Johnny Billquist; Dan Gahlinger Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license Given the current geopolitical, econmic and biological state of the world, inspiring words of deep wisdom are in order for all of us to unwind and destress. There is no wisdom greater than this meme from Paris Jackson. "smoke some weed n think about the bigger picture. chillax my dudes." :) On 3/17/20 6:31 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Sure. I'll be happy to ignore you. But just for anyone else, here is the exchange I had with Dan on the topic. So noone else have to repeat the same thing. Johnny On 2020-03-17 23:27, Dan Gahlinger wrote: please stop bothering me with your nonsense. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Johnny Billquist <mailto:b...@softjar.se> <b...@softjar.se> *Sent:* March 17, 2020 6:26 PM *To:* Dan Gahlinger <mailto:dgahl...@hotmail.com> <dgahl...@hotmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license Your question was: "What would HPE do if the pak they released were posted anonymously with the termination date removed?" That seemed to imply that you were thinking that it was possible to "modify" the PAK. My response was: "You need to generate a different PAK. You cannot change any field in an existing PAK and still have a valid PAK. The checksum will (obviously) change." In which way was that overly arrogant, talking down to you like you were stupid or something. In which way was that "massive attitude"? Or, to put it another way: I simply responded wanting to confirm if you understood that it was not possible to "modify" the PAK, but that you in fact have to create a new PAK, which have nothing to do with the HPE PAK. So the question is really, what would HPE do if someone starts sending out their own PAKs for HPW products. It has nothing to do with their (ie. HPE) PAKs. But you certainly is showing a lot of attitude to my response. But that is your problem. Not mine. Just as any response from HPE would be your problem, not mine. Some countries might not care what HPE thinks or does. Sure. Does that change what HPE thinks or does? No idea. Seems unlikely that it would stop HPE to try and protect their property where they can. But that would be pure speculation on my part. If you want to move to Russia, go ahead. Also not my problem. Johnny On 2020-03-17 18:00, Dan Gahlinger wrote: your message seemed overly arrogant intentionally, talking down to me like I was stupid or something. massive attitude. my question was very clear and concise, and you have yet to provide a valid response, not that your opinion has any weight any longer. what is HPE going to do, sue some guy in Russia or Iran? pffft fat chance next time just politely answer Dan Try: https://www.grammarly.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Johnny Billquist <mailto:b...@softjar.se> <b...@softjar.se> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:07:58 PM *To:* Dan Gahlinger <mailto:dgahl...@hotmail.com> <dgahl...@hotmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license I did feel it was a bit deceptive to phrase the question as if it would be a modification of a HPE PAK. You obviously felt then that this was a fine way to pose the question. Johnny On 2020-03-17 15:28, Dan Gahlinger wrote: well DUH. thanks Captain Obvious... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Johnny Billquist <mailto:b...@softjar.se> <b...@softjar.se> *Sent:* March 17, 2020 10:26 AM *To:* Dan Gahlinger <mailto:dgahl...@hotmail.com> <dgahl...@hotmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license Sure. But then the question should properly be "What would HPE do of people post arbitrary PAKs"? Because it is not any PAK HPE have released. Johnny On 2020-03-17 15:08, Dan Gahlinger wrote: Obviously, but aside from the termination and checksum, Everything else can be the same. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Johnny Billquist <mailto:b...@softjar.se> <b...@softjar.se> *Sent:* March 17, 2020 10:02 AM *To:* Dan Gahlinger <mailto:dgahl...@hotmail.com> <dgahl...@hotmail.com>; simh@trailing-edge.com <mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com> <simh@trailing-edge.com> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license You need to generate a different PAK. You cannot change any field in an existing PAK and still have a valid PAK. The checksum will (obviously) change. Johnny On 2020-03-17 14:40, Dan Gahlinger wrote: I ask because countries like Russia just don't care, or like Iran... *I can neither confirm nor deny that such a posting exists... Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Simh <mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com> <simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com> on behalf of John H. Reinhardt <mailto:johnhreinha...@thereinhardts.org> <johnhreinha...@thereinhardts.org> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:32:34 AM *To:* simh@trailing-edge.com <mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com> <simh@trailing-edge.com> *Subject:* Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license On 3/13/2020 11:29 AM, Arthur Krewat wrote: The domain decusserve.org doesn't exist? Typo on my part in the original. It should be one "s"... <https://eisner.decuserve.org> <https://eisner.decuserve.org> <https://eisner.decuserve.org> <https://eisner.decuserve.org> for the web page. ssh to eisner.decuserve.org for the login. -- John H. Reinhardt On 3/11/2020 9:23 PM, Tony Nicholson wrote: The URL for OpenVMS hobbyist renewal is https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548 You need to make sure you put valid information in the form and make sure you put something reasonable in the "How do you use the Hobbyist Program?" question. If you don't have a Chapter number, go to (via ssh) eisner.decusserve.org <http://eisner.decusserve.org> <http://eisner.decusserve.org> and log in with the username of REGISTRATION and follow the prompts. That gets you registered in the US DECUServe chapter (all nationalities are welcome) and gets you a valid member number for registration. You may have to wait a week or two for the number to become active at HPE. Tony On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:48, dave porter <dave_list_a...@verizon.net <mailto:dave_list_a...@verizon.net> <mailto:dave_list_a...@verizon.net>> wrote: I let my VMS hobbyist license expire a few years back. Can I get one now for the next year? Would someone remind me of how? Thanks. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Supratim Sanyal, W1XMT 39.19151 N, 77.23432 W QCOCAL::SANYAL via HECnet
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