> On Jul 9, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-07-10 04:37, Don North wrote:
>> On 7/9/2020 6:25 PM, Bob Supnik wrote:
>>> Yes, the PDP11 Architecture Handbook was a post-facto effort. The J11 was 
>>> finished; DEC did not intend to do another PDP11 processor. (I wrote a spec 
>>> for one, primarily as an exercise in trying to do a different microcode 
>>> structure than the PLA/ROM of the LSI11/F11/J11, but I lost it.) The only 
>>> formal part of the PDP11 architecture was the Commercial Instruction Set 
>>> extension, DEC STD 168, which was only implemented by the F11 and the 11/44.
>> AND the PDP-11/74 CIS option, I might add. Fully implemented, never sold.
> 
> Not to mention that the 11/74 in itself was fully implemented, but never 
> sold... Not even the 11/70MP...

Were there actually two prototypes called 11/74?  I know the MP machine, which 
the RSX-11 development team owned.  And in Merrimack (home of RSTS and some of 
the compiler teams) there was an 11/74 with CIS, for COBOL.  But that one 
wasn't an MP machine.  Perhaps a coincidence, I don't have a real memory either 
way.

        paul


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