Luis Miguel Morillas has showed me how to use CSV files to render special 
characters correctly in Exhibit, so I care a lot less about Babel now.  
Thanks for responding, however.
On Monday, September 9, 2024 at 10:13:40 PM UTC-5 Roger Cutler wrote:

> It's when I save the Excel file as tsv.  If I save as DOS-text I lose the 
> special characters.  If I save as Unicode-text I get the special characters 
> but Exhibit loses half the records.
>
>
> On Monday, September 9, 2024 at 8:31:43 PM UTC-5 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> when you tsv loses special characters, is that when you save the excel 
>> file as a tsv, or when you read the tsv into exhibit?
>> On 9/9/2024 9:00 PM, Roger Cutler wrote:
>>
>> I care deeply about Babel.  It is the only way that I have been able to 
>> interface between my Excel data and Exhibit displays.  Other Excel->Jason 
>> converters create Jason that looks a lot like the Babel-created Jason, but 
>> make Exhibit croak. A workaround is to use tsv/txt files, but I then lose 
>> all special characters like in "Dvořák", which Babel handled just fine.
>>
>> I have been using Exhibit for a lot more than a decade for multiple 
>> purposes.  I've had repeated trouble with forced version upgrades of 
>> Exhibit that have involved losing features, but losing Babel is really hard 
>> to recover from. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2024 at 5:09:50 PM UTC-5 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Babel has been down for a decade so hopefully nobody cares.  If you rely 
>>> on painter, it is because you are using exhibit v2; you should migrate to 
>>> exhibit v3 which doesn't use it.   Which I expect will be easier to do 
>>> while your e2 version is still working.
>>> On 8/26/2024 4:40 PM, V. Alex Brennen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Over the next month we are planning to migrate the Simile Widgets server 
>>> to a new home in the AI Lab.
>>>
>>> As part of this migration process we are planning to retire and shutdown 
>>> some applications. Basically, we are shutting down the Java server side 
>>> applications and planning to continue to serve  the Javascript for the 
>>> applications that you run on your own webpages. These Javascript based 
>>> applications include, for example, Timeline, Timeplot, Exhibit, etc. The 
>>> Java server side applications that are being retired include Babel, 
>>> Painter, etc.
>>>
>>> I expect that there will be no noticeable impact or downtime as part of 
>>> this migration process.  It should be completely transparent to you. All of 
>>> your local Javascript based pages are expected to continue to work without 
>>> modifications. We will not be changing the domain from 
>>> simile-widgets.org.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like to run a local copy of the Java applications that 
>>> we are retiring, they are fully open source and links to the code 
>>> repositories can be found on their application pages on 
>>> simile-widgets.org.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to 
>>> me at [email protected] and we can discuss them.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>   V. Alex Brennen
>>>   [email protected]
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