At 10:39 AM -0700 07/11/2002, Global Homes Webmaster wrote:
>On 07/11/02 at 10:16, Warren Michelsen wrote:
>
>> My mail queue is filling up with email for a domain that is gone.
>> They were formerly my clients but due to non-payment of long-overdue
>> bills and failure to respond to my calls and email, I shut them down.
>
>Probably a silly question as you've probably already checked this, but are
>you sure that the actual messages are queued to be relayed, or could the
>queued messages be bounce messages.

Actual, incoming messages.

>
>> I had thought that SIMS would reject email to domains for which there
>> are no router entries, with either a No-Such-Account or a
>> We-Don't-Relay error.
>
>If there are no router entries that tell SIMS to treat the domain as local,
>and no entries to forward addresses in the domain(s) elsewhere, then SIMS
>should reject messages with a no-relay error (assuming you have 'relay for
>clients only' enabled and the messages are coming from non-client hosts).

Well, that's what I thought, and it's the reason I posted this to the list.

>Others have already suggested ways to deal with this in your router, so
>I'll leave it be.

That will take care of this particular case, no doubt, but I cannot possibly route 
every possible domain for which I do not accept mail to "error". There is still the 
possibility of a DOS attack as described earlier. The default behavior should be to 
not accept mail for which there is no local account or a router entry, right?

>
>> I've triple-checked my router and there's nothing that I can see
>> which would allow such mail to be accepted. I have used the new
>> address tester in the router of the latest versions of SIMS and an
>> address like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] resolves to "name at
>> SMTP(domain-that-is-gone.com)" which tells me there is no local
>> delivery.
>
>Yes, but the 'name at SMTP(domain-that-is-gone)' indicates, I believe, that
>SIMS thinks it should try to deliver the message via SMTP to
>domain-that-is-gone.

As if the message originated locally from a trusted client. But why would SIMS do 
that? It occurred to me that the primary SIMS server -- the one with the queue getting 
these messages -- was accepting mail from my backup SIMS server -- a trusted host. 
Even if that were the case (it isn't), that still leaves the issue of why the backup 
would accept email for a domain for which it has no router entries.

I keep thinking I'm missing something in the way I deleted the domains in question. 
Unless somehow the MX records on one name server are influencing the situation beyond 
directing senders to this host.

Still curious.

-- 
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