Has anyone devised a replacement/upgrade for/to the Turing Test? On Dec 11, 2007 12:58 PM, <singularity@v2.listbox.com> wrote:
> This digest is sent weekly or every 20 messages, whichever comes first. > > On the chapter of immortality | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Re: [singularity] On the chapter of immortality | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Global Nincompoop Awakens | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Re: [singularity] The Global Nincompoop Awakens | > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Has the Turing test been beaten? | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Re: [singularity] Has the Turing test been beaten? | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Re: [singularity] Has the Turing test been beaten? | > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=11983 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Xavier Laurent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: singularity@v2.listbox.com > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:57:04 +0000 > Subject: On the chapter of immortality > Hello > > I would like to know if someone could give me more insight or > links/projects on what Ben says in his book, P343-344, the Hidden Pattern. > > He is undecided about avenues like: > /"Detailed video/audio recordings of substantial portions of a person's > life, to be post processed later by an advanced AI that tries to solve > the "inverse problem" of reconstructing the person from these records."/ > > Is there any serious projects trying to achieve something similar with > multimedia content for example within a virtual world to achieve AI. 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Unless > expressly stated in the body of the text of the email, this email is > not intended to form a binding contract - a list of authorised > signatories is available from the Bangor University Finance > Office. www.bangor.ac.uk > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bryan Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: singularity@v2.listbox.com > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:20:05 -0600 > Subject: Re: [singularity] On the chapter of immortality > On Friday 07 December 2007, Xavier Laurent wrote: > > He is undecided about avenues like: > > /"Detailed video/audio recordings of substantial portions of a > > person's life, to be post processed later by an advanced AI that > > tries to solve the "inverse problem" of reconstructing the person > > from these records."/ > > > > Is there any serious projects trying to achieve something similar > > with multimedia content for example within a virtual world to achieve > > AI. I am in touch with people who are interested to work along those > > lines, any info/readings would be appreciated or even collaboration. > > Hi, Xav. > > This "inverse problem" is an interesting one, and it may one day be a > good way to trace back a person's development and try to get a "roughly > the same" person, especially in the case of Skinner's "baby in a box" > and other future methods (like DNI). Maybe that is why I tend to keep > many links and logs and notes throughout my journies on the internet- > so that others may, if they must, one day trace my development. I am > interested in collaboration on such a project, so just mail me off list > and we can have a quick chat. > > - Bryan > http://heybryan.org/ > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Benjamin Goertzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: singularity@v2.listbox.com > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 15:19:49 -0500 > Subject: The Global Nincompoop Awakens > As today is my 41st birthday, I felt it apropos to synthesize a new > variant of the "these kids today are going to drag the world to hell" > meme ;-_) > > http://www.goertzel.org/blog/2007/12/global-moron-awakens.html > > -- Ben G > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Johannes Hennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: singularity@v2.listbox.com > Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:13:18 +0100 > Subject: Re: [singularity] The Global Nincompoop Awakens > > On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 15:19 -0500, Benjamin Goertzel wrote: > > As today is my 41st birthday, I felt it apropos to synthesize a new > > variant of the "these kids today are going to drag the world to hell" > > meme ;-_) > > > > http://www.goertzel.org/blog/2007/12/global-moron-awakens.html > > > > -- Ben G > > > > ----- > > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > > Haha, happy Birthday. > I'm certain you will soon learn very interesting things about the > popularity of a certain girls boyfriend from your artificially moronic > parrots that will inhabit second life :-) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Stefan Pernar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: singularity@v2.listbox.com > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:29:45 +0800 > Subject: Has the Turing test been beaten? > Ironic yet thought provoking: > > http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/12/slutbot_passes.php > > -- > Stefan Pernar > 3-E-101 Silver Maple Garden > #6 Cai Hong Road, Da Shan Zi > Chao Yang District > 100015 Beijing > P.R. CHINA > Mobil: +86 1391 009 1931 > Skype: Stefan.Pernar > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Panu Horsmalahti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: singularity@v2.listbox.com > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:55:00 +0200 > Subject: Re: [singularity] Has the Turing test been beaten? > 2007/12/9, Stefan Pernar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Ironic yet thought provoking: > > > > http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/12/slutbot_passes.php > > <http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&;> > > > This is not the Turing Test, since the subjects are not aware that they're > talking with a bot. This type of test has been done multiple times in the > past with simple chat bots. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Charles D Hixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: singularity@v2.listbox.com > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:10:38 -0800 > Subject: Re: [singularity] Has the Turing test been beaten? > Panu Horsmalahti wrote: > > 2007/12/9, Stefan Pernar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > Ironic yet thought provoking: > > > > http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/12/slutbot_passes.php > > <http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/12/slutbot_passes.php> > > > > > > This is not the Turing Test, since the subjects are not aware that > > they're talking with a bot. This type of test has been done multiple > > times in the past with simple chat bots. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > I'm not sure. It wasn't a Turing Test before the news story broke, but > is it one now? > > Mind you, if it is, I think that that's more a proof that much of human > behavior isn't particularly intelligent than a proof that the chat-bot > is, itself, intelligent. Turing proposed his test as a way of defusing > the skeptics, not as a serious test. If he'd been serious he'd have > been much more careful, but he was well aware that any such test being > passed was far in the future, so he wasn't all that careful or precise. > > The Turing test is important primarily because it catches the eye, and > removes "intelligence" from the mystical to the realm of the possibly > testable. > > > > > -- Michael P. Gusek Transhumanist & Amateur Technology Philosopher ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&id_secret=74994725-7eb098
