In simple words we can say all the calls will come to inbound proxy
(whose IP is been exposed to external world...) which intern forward the
request to the intended user with in its domain...

Bit in hard configured scenarios 2 UAs can communicate directly also...

For interoperability reasons, we can consider the calls will always be
forwrded through inbound proxy. 

Thanks & Regards,
Nataraju A.B.
"Progress has little to do with speed, but much to do with direction"

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Santosh
Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:08 PM
To: sip mail list
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query on User Agent

Hi,
The use of proxy is not limited to this. Even if a phone book is used to
store the sip addresses. There may be cases where in the target phone is
moved to some other location. It needs to get registered with a
different
proxy of a different service provider first. ( the concept of roaming
comes
into picture here.) In this case any calls made to the target phone need
to
go to the redirect server which redirects the request via the proxy
server.

Regards,
santpsh

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry Ipe
Thomas
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:02 AM
To: Shahed Moolji
Cc: SIP Implementors Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Query on User Agent

Hi Shahed,

To add to your comments...

These hard phones have a facility known as a phone-book call wherein the
user can configure the target's phone number (SIP Username), IP address
and
transport port number in his phone-book so that when he/she dials that
particular phone number, he/she will in effect initiate a direct call to
the
end user agent. So you don't necessarily need a proxy server to make SIP
calls.

Warm Regards,

Jerry Ipe Thomas
Engineer(R&D)
D-Link India Ltd.
Software & R&D Center
Bangalore - 68
Ph: +91-80-26788350/1 Extn: 117
Mob: +919886442530


-----Original Message-----
From: Shahed Moolji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 7:29 PM
To: suresh parakkal; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Query on User Agent



Suresh,

I am 99.9% sure that there is no need for a proxy server etc.

2 UA's can interact directly. However, some hardware phones
insist on first registering with a proxy first, so if you
want to say, test your software UA with one of these devices,
it may be a problem.

Regards
Shahed

>  In other words whether the User agent (phone)  will have the
capability
> to initiate the call as well as receive the call by default as per the
SIP
> standards?



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