It depends.

If subscription is beteween 2 User agents and there is no presence server
then its responsibility of each of the User agents to NOTIFY other about its
presence state change using NOTIFY request.

But if there is presence server in the network then each UA need not act as
NOTIFIER. It can just update server and it becomes responsibility of
presence server to send notify.

But to send notification, Presence server need to be aware of state of UA.
UA updates presence server with its state using PUBLISH method. So If
presence server is there and PUBLISH is supported by UA and server then
there is no need of sending notifications by UA. It would be sent by server.

Regards,
Deepak kumar

----- Original Message -----
From: "somesh s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Deepak .K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] About PUBLISH & Presence


> Hi,
>
> Is UA responsible for sending NOTIFY? I thought
> Presence Server is responsible for sending
> NOTIFications. Please clarify.
>
> With regards
> Somesh S. Shanbhag
>
>
> --- "Deepak .K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > PUBLISH may be useful if SIP endpoint doesn't act as
> > a Notifier i.e. if
> > endpoint can only send SUBSCRIBE requests and can
> > process NOTIFY requests.
> >
> > It means that endpoint decided not to support direct
> > subscriptions from
> > other endpoints.
> >
> > In such case, there must be a presence server
> > present in that network and to
> > update presence server with endpoint presence
> > states, PUBLISH would be the
> > best way to update the presence server so that other
> > interested endpoints in
> > the network can subscribe to state of this endpoint.
> > Also without PUBLISH,
> > further presence updates to other endpoints won't be
> > possible as this
> > endpoint doesn't act as Notifier.
> >
> > This scenario may useful for service providers.
> >
> > PUBLISH should be sent immediatly after the
> > Registration with *OPEN* state
> > so that other endpoints can subscribe to its
> > presence state.
> >
> > PUBLISH should also be sent with *closed* state
> > before unregistering from
> > the presence server.
> >
> > I hope I have answered your query. Plz correct me if
> > something wrong.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Deepak kumar
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "somesh s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "SIPimplementors SIP"
> > <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:10 AM
> > Subject: [Sip-implementors] About PUBLISH & Presence
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is it *necessary* that the UA has to *PUBLISH*
> > about
> > > its status (open/close) immediately after it has
> > > subscribed to *presence server*?
> > >
> > > Does all the *presence server* expects that
> > *PUBLISH*
> > > from UA?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > With regards
> > > Somesh S. Shanbhag
> > >
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