Hi,

>From my point of view, Sesion Timers are only useful for call statefull 
>proxies because this ones have resources reserved for all running sessions. If 
>a session ends due to an end-point crash, the proxy will keep reserving 
>resources forever. That is why a timer is required.
In the case of a transaction statefull proxy, the resources are reserved only 
for the duration of a transaction, which is usually around 30 seconds.

Moreover, how can a  transaction statefull proxy be aware of Session Timers if 
they usually have a higher value than the duration of a common transaction?

Hope it helps,

Samuel.


Unclassified.
>>> Jaya krishna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/04/05 07:04AM >>>
hi ,
 
>>>Because a non call-stateful (non dialog-stateful) proxy does not
>>>record-route, it will not observe subsequent requests on the dialog. Thus 
>>>>>>the RFC does not really apply to transaction-stateful proxies which are 
>>>>>>not also acting call-stateful
 
A transactionstateful proxy can also record-route if it wants to be in the path 
of all transaction, it is not that only callstateful proxy should do.
 
As we know that a transactionstateful proxy maintains only a state for a 
transaction but doesnot maintain any callstate. 
 
If this is the case how a transactionstateful proxy handles the session timer  
when it does/doesnt record-route or it is only applicable to call stateful 
proxies ?
 
need clarification in this regard .....
 
Any solutions/comments appreciated
 
Thanks in advance
--JayaKrishna
 
Brett Tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Section 8.3 of RFC 4028 says that proxy 
> may free any resources associated with the 
> call on session expiry.
> 
> I want more clarification on what we should 
> do on a session expiry when proxy is behaving 
> as transactionstateful. 
> 
> The behavior in RFC 4028 tells more of proxy 
> that is behaving as callstateful.

Because a non call-stateful (non dialog-stateful) proxy does not
record-route, it will not observe subsequent requests on the dialog. Thus the 
RFC does not really apply to transaction-stateful proxies which are not also 
acting call-stateful.



                
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