I'm copying Adam because he was author of 3265, and Robert because of his work on the dialog usage draft.

Comments inline.

        Paul

Jeroen van Bemmel wrote:
Paul,

Are you sure?

Well, I *thought* I was sure.

A thread some time ago (http://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/sip-implementors/2002-November/004066.html) says they're not, quoting issues with shared dialog usages

I was part of that thread. But I don't remember that part of it. (Maybe I suppressed the memory.)

I reviewed both 3261 and 3265 on this point. 3261 does say that the only target refresh request it defines is INVITE, and that others may be defined. (Though it doesn't say *how* they are to be defined. There is no table, no IANA registry, no procedures of any kind.) And 3265 says nothing about target refresh, positive or negative.

It had been my assumption (obviously unsupported by text) that if a request can define the initial target of a dialog, and if it may also be used within an established dialog, then it should be treated as a target refresh request.

Perhaps the interpretation should be that there is a contact per dialog usage?

No, no, no. 3261 is very clear that the target belongs to the dialog, not the dialog usage. There is no way that having separate ones could work.

        Paul

Jeroen



Suganthi Chinnappan - NPD, Chennai wrote:

Hi All,
In RFC 3261,it is clearly mentioned that " For dialogs that have been
established with an   INVITE, the only target refresh request defined is
re-INVITE ".Similarly,for SUBSCRIBE created dialogs,What will be the the
Target refresh Request?


(re)SUBSCRIBE and NOTIFY are target refresh requests.

Paul

Thanks,
Suganthi


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