Hi Aman,

Juste to mention taht Max Forward header doesn't provide a loop detection
mechanism.

A real loop detection mechanism could solve the problem mentioned in the
following draft (which is really interesting)
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lawrence-maxforward-problems-00.txt

Best regards

Marc Bailly

On 12/5/05, Aman Arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi Chandan,
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> As an alternate to this, RFC 3261 introduced a new header Max-Forwards (as
> a MUST in all SIP requests).
> Quoting Section 8.1.1.6 and 20.22 from 3261-
> The Max-Forwards header field serves to limit the number of hops a
>    request can transit on the way to its destination.  It consists of an
>    integer that is decremented by one at each hop.  If the Max-Forwards
>    value reaches 0 before the request reaches its destination, it will
>    be rejected with a 483(Too Many Hops) error response.
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>    A UAC MUST insert a Max-Forwards header field into each request it
>    originates with a value that SHOULD be 70.  This number was chosen to
>    be sufficiently large to guarantee that a request would not be
>    dropped in any SIP network when there were no loops, but not so large
>    as to consume proxy resources when a loop does occur.  Lower values
>    should be used with caution and only in networks where topologies are
>    known by the UA.
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> The Max-Forwards header field must be used with any SIP method to
>    limit the number of proxies or gateways that can forward the request
>    to the next downstream server.  This can also be useful when the
>    client is attempting to trace a request chain that appears to be
>    failing or looping in mid-chain.
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>    The Max-Forwards value is an integer in the range 0-255 indicating
>    the remaining number of times this request message is allowed to be
>    forwarded.  This count is decremented by each server that forwards
>    the request.  The recommended initial value is 70.
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>    This header field should be inserted by elements that can not
>    otherwise guarantee loop detection.  For example, a B2BUA should
>    insert a Max-Forwards header field.
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> Thus either Proxy can check on this header to detect a looping message.
> Also though this method doens't help distinguish between
> a loop and a spiral, yet it is more efficient and faster as compared to
> the
> method to calculate the branch in the Via.
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> rgds
> aman
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>              Thangarajan
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>              AM                        Re: [Sip-implementors] Loop detect
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> Hi  Chandan,
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>       Both stateless and stateful proxy can detect loop if they calculate
> the
> branch parameter using following logic.
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> "Proxies choosing to detect loops have an additional constraint
> in the value they use for construction of the branch parameter.
> A proxy choosing to detect loops SHOULD create a branch
> parameter separable into two parts by the implementation. The
> first part MUST satisfy the constraints of Section 8.1.1.7 as
> described above. The second is used to perform loop detection
> and distinguish loops from spirals. The second part is
> cryptographic hash of the To tag, From tag, Call-ID header
> field, the Request-URI of the request received (before
> translation), the topmost Via header, and the sequence number
> from the CSeq header field, in addition to any Proxy-Require
> and Proxy-Authorization header fields that may be present."
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> "To determine if the request has looped, the proxy element MAY
> perform the branch parameter calculation like described above
> and compare it to the parameter received in that Via header field.
> If the parameters match, the request has looped."
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> Regards,
> Thangarajan.
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>              "Chandan Jena -
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> Hi all,
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>          Does Stateless proxy give loop detect or not? When I tested one
> scenario in stateful proxy ,it gives loop detect .but When I tested the
> same
> scenario in stateless proxy, it doesn't give the loop detect and  it added
> VIA header again and again. Then after some time the call terminated. What
> is the solution for this? How we check loop detect incase of stateless and
> stateful ? Plz clarify me on this point.
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> Thanks and Regards
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> Chandan Kumar Jena
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