Section 2.19 in the ID draft-ietf-sipping-service-examples-10.txt uses
REFER to suggest a click-to-dial implementation. 

Also, section 2 in RFC 3515 says:
A REFER request MAY be placed outside the scope of a dialog created with
an INVITE.  REFER creates a dialog...

-Vishal

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Kyzivat
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:12 AM
To: Matthew Gardiner
Cc: Sip-Implementors
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Multiple definitions of call transfer
with in theIETF documentation

I forget which draft, but I have seen proposals to use REFER with 
message=BYE to (IIRC) delete someone from a conference.

        Paul

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>>>Primitives like 
>>>REFER scare me because it is hard to understand how the node
receiving a 
>>>REFER can know in all cases what, if anything, to do with it.
> 
> 
>>IMHO, REFER is under-specified in this way.  If I remember correctly,
I
>>once tallied 5 distinctly different meanings for a REFER.  IMHO,
>>something needs to be done to enumerate and distinguish these meanings
>>in order to finish specifying REFER.
> 
> 
> Yes, as I stated earlier, my company's system, currently, only maps
receipt
> of REFER to a transfer request. What other meanings might receipt of
REFER
> have?
> 
> Matt
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