I agree.

I recognize the bug of # 769.
I think that the draft should be modified to consider this problem. 
(However, I'm thinking about how to modify it.)

Miki Hasebe

Paul Kyzivat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Because this is a bug where the fix hasn't been formally fixed, I don't 
> think it is safe to assume *either* that it has been fixed or it hasn't. 
> So I think a BCP should allow both, with an explanation.
> 
>       Paul
> 
> Venkatesh wrote:
> > I am not sure if that is a reasonable argument. This behavior has been
> > acknowledged as a bug in the RFC 3261. The bug detailes what the fix for the
> > same is going to be. I assume that this change in behavior will make it into
> > a RFC sometime in future. Not sure an example draft that contradicts this
> > behavior is a good idea.
> > 
> > For this specific scenario under consideration the far end is going to get a
> > 200 OK for the CANCEL (instead of a 481 response). It is still going to have
> > to complete the INVITE transaction and tear down the call with a BYE.
> > 
> > Venkatesh
> > 
> > 
> > On 5/18/06, Frank Shearar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Sure, I agree that there's an open bug. Nonetheless, if you write a stack
> >> to
> >> fix the bug, then your stack isn't quite RFC 3261 compliant anymore. UACs
> >> that expect you to follow the RFC will then be surprised. (Caveat: I've
> >> not
> >> thought through what cases might lead to unexpected behaviour.)
> >>
> >> frank
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Venkatesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Frank Shearar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Cc: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:26 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Question
> >> regardingdraft-hasebe-sipping-exceptional-procedure-examples-02.
> >>
> >>
> >> I meant the UAS is not supposed to terminate the INVITE transaction on
> >> sending a 200 OK response for the INVITE.
> >>
> >> On 5/18/06, Venkatesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>  Please refer to the bug I referred to in my previous email that is open
> >>> against RFC 3261. It clearly indicates that the UAS is not supposed to
> >>> terminate the INVITE transaction on sending a 200 OK response for the
> >>> response. If this were indeed to be the case, the UAS will still find
> >> the
> >>> INVITE transaction and that is my point.
> >>>
> >>> Venkatesh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  On 5/18/06, Frank Shearar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> "Venkatesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Section 2.1 of this draft illustrates a scenario where by a CANCEL
> >> and
> >>>> a
> >>>> 200
> >>>>> OK for the INVITE cross the wire. The draft suggests rejecting the
> >>>> CANCEL
> >>>>> with a 481 final response. I am not sure this is correct behavior.
> >> The
> >>>> UAS
> >>>>> must send a 200 OK for the CANCEL request (as it would find the
> >> INVITE
> >>>>> transaction). INVITE transacations are not supposed to be destroyed
> >>>> when a
> >>>>> 200 OK response for the INVITE is sent by the UAS. I believe there
> >> is
> >>>> a
> >>>> bug
> >>>>> open against RFC 3261 for the same (
> >>>>> http://bugs.sipit.net/show_bug.cgi?id=769)
> >>>> RFC section 9.2 says regarding a UAS processing a CANCEL request
> >>>>
> >>>>   If the UAS did not find a matching transaction for the CANCEL
> >>>>   according to the procedure above, it SHOULD respond to the CANCEL
> >>>>   with a 481 (Call Leg/Transaction Does Not Exist).
> >>>>
> >>>> In Hasebe et al's draft(*), Bob's 200 OK terminates his INVITE
> >>>> transaction.
> >>>> As a result, when Alice's CANCEL arrives, Bob cannot match the CANCEL
> >>>> against a transaction, so must return a 481.
> >>>>
> >>>> (*) The draft's name has changed to
> >> draft-hasebe-sipping-race-examples,
> >>>> and
> >>>> in the new draft this scenario is in section 3.1.2.
> >>>>
> >>>> frank
> >>>>
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