There was a typo in the email.  Sorry.  Resending.

There are two scenarios to consider.

1) Say UA A supports session timer and the UA B doesn't support.  In this
case, whenever UA B sends Re-INVITE due to hold need not have
Session-Expires and Min-SE header.  

2) If UA A and UA B supports Session Timer (via Supported/Require header),
then, any Re-INVITE by UA B should include as it is aware of Session
Timer. 

Thanks,
Neel


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Neelakantan
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:40 PM
To: 'Igor Vanin'; 'vinodk'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Session timer: re-INVITE on the passive side

There are two scenarios to consider.

1) Say UA A supports session timer and the UA B doesn't support.  In this
case, whenever UA B sends Re-INVITE due to hold need not have
Session-Expires and Min-SE header.  

2) If UA A and UA B supports Session Timer (via Supported/Require header),
then, any Re-INVITE by UA B should include as it is not aware of Session
Timer. 

Thanks,
Neel


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Vanin
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 7:06 AM
To: vinodk; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Session timer: re-INVITE on the passive side

Hello, vinodk
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:47:37 +0530 "vinodk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
to "Igor Vanin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

v> Your soft phone has timer Extension enabled and remote Soft phone is 
v> the Refresher. It means your soft phone should not send INVITE with 
v> Session-Expires header. If you sending call Hold INVITE restrict it
v> only for Hold .Don't add Any headers related Timer Extension for Hold
v> Transaction.  I feel this way you clearly isolate the
v> interdependency.

Vinod, thank you for your suggestion.
But I have received several opposed responses to my question,
they say that my phone should include Session-Expires and Min-SE 
headers into the re-INVITE, otherwise session timer mechanism 
may be stopped for that dialog because of lack of these headers.
So, I am still in doubts, both answers look reasonable...

PS. I am responding back to mailing list because I have received 
many replies by the personal mail.

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v> Igor Vanin wrote:
>> Let's suppose the following call scenario:
>> My softphone has an active call session with the Session Timer
>> extension (RFC4028) enabled, and the current refresher of this
>> session is the remote softphone (so, my softphone is the side not
>> performing refreshes). Now my softphone wishes to do a re-INVITE 
>> (for example, for put the call on hold).
>> 
>> Should my softphone include header fields Session-Expires and Min-SE 
>> into this re-INVITE request? The answer for the side performing
>> refreshes is obvious according the paragraph "7.4. Generating
>> Subsequent Session Refresh Requests". But I am not sure about correct
>> behavior for the side not performing refreshes if it wishes to do a
>> re-INVITE.

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With best regards, Igor Vanin, St. Petersburg, Russia
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