Yes, you are right I am not sure what exactly you are looking for. Once you have established session between A and B through 3PCC, then must have 2 dialogs. 3PCC holds both the dialogs. Then 3PCC should able to get out the signaling path using REFER. As 3PCC holds both legs of the call, it should not have any problem using REFER provided A and B supports it. I am not sure why you want 3PCC out of the signaling path.
-----Original Message----- From: Darshan Bildikar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:02 AM To: Sarkar, Uttam; [email protected] Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Question related to 3PCC I don't think you have understood my question. I understand the difference between using 3PCC and REFER. My question if I have already used 3PCC to setup a call between two parties. Is it NOW possible to drop out of the signalling after an arbitrary amount of time? I am hoping that I can use Refer with replaces for this. However, I have noticed that most UA's reject REFER if 1) It is out of dialog 2) We don't HOLD the INVITE dialog within which the REFER is sent. In this situation it is obvious that I cannot hold any of the parties. Darshan -----Original Message----- From: Sarkar, Uttam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 5:03 PM To: Darshan Bildikar; [email protected] Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Question related to 3PCC Please see RFC 3725. 3PCC is a B2BUA. That should be in the path of SIP signaling for billing purpose. If your application requires 3PCC to be out of the signaling path, you could use REFER to achieve this provided both endpoints support it. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darshan Bildikar Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Question related to 3PCC Apologies for the retransmit. Would appreciate any pointers. I am stuck with this. Darshan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darshan Bildikar Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Sip-implementors] Question related to 3PCC A question related to transfer I have achieved a call transfer through 3PCC between parties A and B and have individual dialogs with both. After completion of the call, I now want to drop out of the signalling path (either immediately or after an arbitrary amount of time). Is this legal? Can I send a refer with a replaces to A or B to achieve this? Another related question I've noticed that most endpoints accept a REFER (inside INVITE dialog) only if we hold the INVITE dialog first. Is this because it is inside dialog? Can I expect different behaviour if I send the request outside of a dialog? Darshan _______________________________________________ Sip-implementors mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implementors _______________________________________________ Sip-implementors mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implementors _______________________________________________ Sip-implementors mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implementors
