yes, you are right.

To my knowledge offers with no media are rarely seen. You may have 
difficulty getting UAs to accept it. But in principle it is legal.

        Paul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Many thanks for all your replies.
> 
> One more query is that what is the difference between invite with bhsdp and 
> invite with no media.
> 
> My understanding of these is that invite with bhsdp is:
> 
> INVITE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:12000 SIP/2.0
> From: <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;tag=10773021540708372_local.1210137313755_22_19
> To: <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Call-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Max-Forwards: 70
> CSeq: 2 INVITE
> Content-Type: application/sdp
> Content-Length: 171
> 
> v=0
> o=user 0 0 IN IP4 10.238.115.216
> s=-
> c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0
> t=0 0
> m=audio 10000 RTP/AVP 0 101
> a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000/1
> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000/1
> a=sendonly
> 
> And for the invite with no media is :
> 
> INVITE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:12000 SIP/2.0
> From: <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;tag=10773021540708372_local.1210137313755_22_19
> To: <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Call-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Max-Forwards: 70
> CSeq: 2 INVITE
> Content-Type: application/sdp
> Content-Length: 171
> 
> v=0
> o=user 0 0 IN IP4 10.238.115.216
> s=-
> c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0
> t=0 0
> a=sendonly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> am I correct in my understanding?
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> Rajeswari.R
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:39 PM
> To: Routhu, Rajeswari (Cognizant)
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
> Depends if it is after the m line, then it is the attribute of that
> media session... If it is before the m line, it is the attribute of the
> entire session. Attributes are advised to be per media parameter as per
> RFC 3264.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
> 
> Hi ,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks very much for the info. The scenario iam trying is such that I
> have to put  auser on hold actually not call on hold.I was able to set a
> =inactive in the initial invite  and the user was placed on hold by
> remote party.
> 
>  
> 
> Iam raising this query again:
> 
> With respect to whether a=inactive/sendonly is for whole sdp or for each
> mediaDescription?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> 
> Rajeswari.R
> 
>  
> 
> From: Mahipati Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:16 PM
> To: Ramya Jothi; Routhu, Rajeswari (Cognizant);
> Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
>  
> 
> I don't know practical usage of this, but there is no law that prevents
> you to do it. But  I could think one usage - auto-redial feature
> supported by service provider. So you should be prepared for this.
> 
> Called party can answer with a=sendonly (i.e. call hold) in its first
> answer. This is a very useful  for IVR or in call centers.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Mahipati Deshpande
> 
>  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ramya Jothi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mahipati Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 11:10:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
> Hi 
> 
>  
> 
> To put a call on hold first it needs to be established if they is no
> communication btw two peers
> 
> Then what is the need to put them on hold ?
> 
>  
> 
> -Regards Ramya
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Mahipati Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
>  
> 
> Its not mandatory that you need to offer with "sendrecv" in initial
> INVITE.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Mahipati Deshpande
> 
>  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 10:41:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
> 
> Hi Ramya,
> 
> I got you. You mean first I should establish a call with the useagent
> from the application. Then I need to send the re-invite to the useragent
> with a =send only .Its just not sending the invite, but also reinvite.Am
> I right?
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> Rajeswari.R
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramya Jothi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:25 AM
> To: Routhu, Rajeswari (Cognizant);
> Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
> Hi Rajeswari
> 
> First the call needs to be established
> Only then u can put it on hold
> 
>     INVITE a = sendrecv
> A -----------> B
> 
>     200OK a = sendrecv
> A <------------ B
> 
>     ACK
> A ------------> B
> 
> The above will establish the call
> Now send an Re-INVITE or UPDATE
> 
>     Re-INVITE a = sendonly
> A ------------> B
> 
>     200OK a = recvonly
> A <----------- B
>     ACK
> A -----------> B
> 
> 
> U can also use inactive
> Pls refer RFC 3264 
> 
> -Regards Ramya
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:10 AM
> To: Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] REG: call hold
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I want to connect to a useragent i.e, put him on hold from my
> application. The useragent is not on any call initially .For this iam
> creating an invite request and sending it to the useragent as below:
> 
> 
> 
> INVITE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:12000 SIP/2.0
> 
> From:
> <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;tag=42215289471803874_local.1210132738140_10
> _10
> 
> To: <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Call-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Max-Forwards: 70
> 
> CSeq: 2 INVITE
> 
> Content-Type: application/sdp
> 
> Content-Length: 159
> 
> 
> 
> v=0
> 
> o=user 0 0 IN IP4 10.238.115.216
> 
> s=-
> 
> c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0
> 
> t=0 0
> 
> m=audio 10000 RTP/AVP 0 101
> 
> a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000/1
> 
> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000/1
> 
> 
> 
> For this the useragent is sending response as:
> 
> 
> 
> SIP/2.0 200 OK
> 
> Content-Length: 243
> 
> User-Agent: X-Lite release 1002tx stamp 29712
> 
> Content-Type: application/sdp
> 
> Allow: INVITE
> 
> Allow: ACK
> 
> Allow: CANCEL
> 
> Allow: OPTIONS
> 
> Allow: BYE
> 
> Allow: REFER
> 
> Allow: NOTIFY
> 
> Allow: MESSAGE
> 
> Allow: SUBSCRIBE
> 
> Allow: INFO
> 
> CSeq: 2 INVITE
> 
> Call-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> From:
> <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;tag=42215289471803874_local.1210132738140_10
> _10
> 
> To: <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;tag=3861b74f
> 
> Contact: <sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:12000>
> 
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP
> 10.238.115.216:5060;branch=z9hG4bK870573921493445;ibmsid=local.121013273
> 8140_10_10
> 
> 
> 
> v=0
> 
> o=- 1 2 IN IP4 10.238.115.216
> 
> s=<CounterPath eyeBeam 1.5>
> 
> c=IN IP4 10.238.115.216
> 
> t=0 0
> 
> m=audio 12002 RTP/AVP 0 101
> 
> a=fmtp:101 0-15
> 
> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
> 
> a=sendrecv
> 
> a=x-rtp-session-id:CEAECAD8CCB04812A04FE6D267EEB9A0
> 
> 
> 
> Iam creating the ACK for the response and sending it back and call got
> established with the server and the useragent. 
> 
> 
> 
> Now is it the right procedure to put a useragent on hold. If not please
> suggest me the correct procedure,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> 
> Rajeswari.R 
> 
> 
> 
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