2010/3/15 Aaron Clauson <aa...@sipsorcery.com>: >> >In my humble opinion if proxying media is the answer >> >> Proxing the media is NOT the anwser. > > I agree entirely that's why I find the TURN (which does proxy the media) so > against the grain.
But again, TURN must be used just in a few cases (specially when both endpoints are behind symmetric NAT). >> I don't understand this point. ALG breaks, in most of the cases, the >> SIP signalling [*]. >> STUN, ICE or server solutions don't help here as in many cases those >> kind of SIP ALG routers modify and break the signalling even if the >> SIP messages contain public addresses (due to STUN usage), so I don't >> think ICE is here to fix ALG's. ALG's just must dissapear ASAP. > > I agree entirely that ALG's are bad and should disappear. My point was > related to Thomas Gelf's paragraph that I inferred ICE was being stated as a > solution to ALG's. Perhaps I inferred incorrectly but it seems a moot point > since the consensus is that ALG's are evil. Well, just to clarify, ICE ddn't born to fix SIP-ALG routers. ICE is a solution for the real world (full of NAT) which, of course, it arrives late (but it's better than nothing). -- Iñaki Baz Castillo <i...@aliax.net> _______________________________________________ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implementors