2010/3/15 Aaron Clauson <aa...@sipsorcery.com>:
>> >In my humble opinion if proxying media is the answer
>>
>> Proxing the media is NOT the anwser.
>
> I agree entirely that's why I find the TURN (which does proxy the media) so 
> against the grain.

But again, TURN must be used just in a few cases (specially when both
endpoints are behind symmetric NAT).


>> I don't understand this point. ALG breaks, in most of the cases, the
>> SIP signalling [*].
>> STUN, ICE or server solutions don't help here as in many cases those
>> kind of SIP ALG routers modify and break the signalling even if the
>> SIP messages contain public addresses (due to STUN usage), so I don't
>> think ICE is here to fix ALG's. ALG's just must dissapear ASAP.
>
> I agree entirely that ALG's are bad and should disappear. My point was 
> related to Thomas Gelf's paragraph that I inferred ICE was being stated as a 
> solution to ALG's. Perhaps I inferred incorrectly but it seems a moot point 
> since the consensus is that ALG's are evil.

Well, just to clarify, ICE ddn't born to fix SIP-ALG routers. ICE is a
solution for the real world (full of NAT) which, of course, it arrives
late (but it's better than nothing).


-- 
Iñaki Baz Castillo
<i...@aliax.net>

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