On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:27 PM,  <sunilkumar.ve...@wipro.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Its  not mandatory as it may flood the network with Re-invites or
> Updates even in valid call scenarios which are running for quite a long
> time.
> I could see that as the main reason.


How can this happen? How does the Expires header trigger re-INVITEs ?



>
> Also if we are using TCP as transport we can build TCP based "Keep
> alive" mechanism.
>
> Session timers are mainly useful for proxy when UDP is the transport.


I am not talking about a session timer. I am talking about the Expires
header. I am not talking about re-INVITE.


>
> From UAC/UAS(endpoints) it will not be a major issue as they can clear
> off the transaction when user disconnect.
> After all user will be aware of there is some one responding at the
> other end or there is silence.
>
> Hope I have answered your question.


No. Perhaps the question was unclear.


>
>
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> Sunil Verma
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of M.
> Ranganathan
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:57 AM
> To: sip-implementors
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] Expires header. Why not mandatory for
> DialogForming INVITE
>
> Hello,
>
> I am wondering why it is not mandatory for the UAC to attach an Expires
> to a dialog forming INVITE. It would seem useful for at least a couple
> of things:
>
> 1. Stack can know when to tear down a "dead" transaction which is stuck
> in Proceeding state.
>
> 2. Downstream proxy can know what the max fork expiration time can be.
>
> It would seem useful to make this a mandatory header for a dialog
> forming INVITE and yet it is not. Just wondering why.
>
> Ranga
>
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> M. Ranganathan
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