On 5/29/15 1:33 PM, Ambrish Kumar wrote:
Hi Paul and Adelia,


Thanks for the prompt response.  So as per standard its feasible to
relay the RTP media  as soon as offer answer is completed i.e. even
after reliable 18x response.

Even after an *un*reliable 1xx response. And one way media even before any answer has been sent.

I agree RBT should be heard to Fanout number(LEA) but what I need to

I don't know what RBT is.

implement is to send actual RTP. I am not sure if any UE microphone get
activated during 18x.

As I described, calls to some callees probably won't work right if the microphone (and DTMF) aren't enabled during early media.

I believe this is unrealistic ask. Please suggest.

*What* is unrealistic? Do you mean there is some technical impediment to doing it? Or that it *shouldn't* be done? Or that it makes no sense to do?

        Thanks,
        Paul

Regards,
Ambrish
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu
<mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu>> wrote:

    On 5/29/15 12:11 PM, Ambrish Kumar wrote:

        Dear Team,

        I  am working on Lawful interception and integrating  our IMS
        nodes (SBC)
        with LEA.  We have got a very unusual ask form IB/RAW where they
        want to
        listen the RTP flow before call is actually answered by “B”

        We need your help and confirmation from any RFC which clarifies
        when does
        Media should start flowing in network :
        1. Is it possible RTP media should start flowing right after
        offer-answer
        model is completed say after 18x response?

        2. Or RTP Media should start flowing after 200 OK ACK response.


     >From a SIP perspective, media can start flowing to the offerer as
    soon as the offer is sent. (Of course, from a practical perspective
    it also can't be sent until the offer has been received by the
    device that will be sending.) Note that this can be long before the
    O/A has been completed.

    And then media can start flowing to the answerer as soon as the
    answer has been sent. Practically this means when the offerer has
    received the answer SDP. (Note that technically the O/A isn't
    complete until the answer is sent in a *reliable* response. But for
    the purposes here it is sufficient if it was sent in an unreliable
    response that actually reaches the offerer.)

    But not all deployments are so lenient. In particular, IIUC, IMS
    "gates" the media streams until the answer reaches the caller's
    outbound proxy. So, if you understand the details of your deployment
    you can take advantage of knowledge.

    Note that there are some extreme cases of early media that are
    deployed. Some call centers may send media (not just ringback) in
    both directions for an extended period of time, until the call is
    assigned to an agent. The entire IVR interaction, with DTMF from the
    caller, may be conducted using early media.

        I   know most of implementation start pushing media after 200 OK
        ACK. But
        does standard mandates to start flow TWO WAY RTP right after
        offer-answer
        model is completed.


    It doesn't mandate that it MUST start flowing. But it does mandate
    that it MAY start flowing.

             Thanks,
             Paul


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