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The MMUSIC chairs have reviewed the mailing list discussion pertaining to ICE over the last few days. While we agree that further implementation experience and publication of deployment results would be valuable, as it is for any new protocol, we do not believe this sufficient cause to revisit the consensus to request publication of draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-17.txt as a Proposed Standard.

The characteristics of Proposed Standard specifications are described in RFC 2026 section 4.1.1 as follows:

   The entry-level maturity for the standards track is "Proposed
   Standard".  A specific action by the IESG is required to move a
   specification onto the standards track at the "Proposed Standard"
   level.

   A Proposed Standard specification is generally stable, has resolved
known design choices, is believed to be well-understood, has received
   significant community review, and appears to enjoy enough community
   interest to be considered valuable.  However, further experience
   might result in a change or even retraction of the specification
   before it advances.

   Usually, neither implementation nor operational experience is
   required for the designation of a specification as a Proposed
   Standard.  However, such experience is highly desirable, and will
   usually represent a strong argument in favor of a Proposed Standard
   designation.

   The IESG may require implementation and/or operational experience
   prior to granting Proposed Standard status to a specification that
   materially affects the core Internet protocols or that specifies
   behavior that may have significant operational impact on the
   Internet.

   A Proposed Standard should have no known technical omissions with
   respect to the requirements placed upon it.  However, the IESG may
   waive this requirement in order to allow a specification to advance
to the Proposed Standard state when it is considered to be useful and
   necessary (and timely) even with known technical omissions.

   Implementors should treat Proposed Standards as immature
   specifications.  It is desirable to implement them in order to gain
   experience and to validate, test, and clarify the specification.
   However, since the content of Proposed Standards may be changed if
   problems are found or better solutions are identified, deploying
   implementations of such standards into a disruption-sensitive
   environment is not recommended.

Our judgement is that ICE meets these requirements, and that there is general working group consensus to request publication. Accordingly, our intention is to proceed as we previously announced, and request that ICE be published as a Proposed Standard RFC.

Colin Perkins, Jörg Ott, and Jean-François Mulé
MMUSIC chairs






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