Martin,

You left out a few details that are significant:

- Does the AS act as a B2BUA for the call?
- If so, is it in the media path too (terminating and reoriginating
  the media), or only in the signaling path?

If the AS is in the media path then of course it can originate its own media and send it in that path. But, while it can relay media without actual codec support, it won't be able to originate its own media if it doesn't support the codec selected by UE B.

The AS MAY send another 180 with a different answer to the offer that is compatible with its own supported codecs. But to do so legally, it must select a different to-tag in that response. That makes it appear to UE A that the call was forked (which in fact it was).

The latter approach should cover all of your cases. It does however depend on UE A properly handling the forking case and making a suitable decision about which media to render.

        Paul

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Hello all,

I am thinking about one problem, consider following message flow:

1. UE A sends SIP INVITE message with SDP offer to EU B
2. On originating call leg there is application server announced about the call.
3. 180 Ringing message with SDP answer is sent from UE B to UE A (AS is 
announced that the call is in progress)
4. Time frame allocated to establish the call passed at AS and the message 
needs to be played ...

Can now the AS make use of negotiated media paths and play some "called party not 
available" message without sending 200 OK message first?

My assumption here is that media paths are negoiated (UE A claims sendrecv audio channel 
so it must be prepare to receive media) so AS "can" send this message.


Consider also little complication, AS is not able to play media in a codec 
claimed in the answer. Can AS send another 180 ringing message where the 
appropriate codec will be issued?

I will appreciate any clarification on this issues.

br, Martin


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