In general, I think the mechanism outlined in draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-00 is a good starting place for disambiguating multiple usages of INFO, and I'd like to thank Hadriel and Christer for putting forth the effort to submit a concrete proposal. I have a number of specific suggestions for improving the mechanism that I'd like to offer up at some point in the future.

However, I can't support the document in its current form.

The current document conflates INFO packages with Event packages in a way that is quite dangerous -- even going so far as to call INFO packages "Event packages" in a few places (c.f. section 4: "The general concept is that the UAC generating an INVITE request includes the Event packages it supports sending and receiving, in two new headers: Send-Event and Recv-Event."). It confusingly re-uses the "Event" header field from RFC 3265, and even suggests that common packages can be defined for RFC 3265 and for INFO.

This harmful conflation between RFC 3265 event packages and INFO packages pervades the document. Until this issue becomes less confused in the text, I strongly believe that the document will do far, far more damage than good.

/a

Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
Howdy,
Just an FYI that Christer and I submitted a draft for SIP INFO events, based on 
the email discussion.  This is on the agenda for Vancouver.
Cheers,
-hadriel

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        Title           : SIP INFO Event Framework
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        Filename        : draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-00.txt
        Pages           : 12
        Date            : 2007-11-08

This document defines a proposed solution for defining, negotiating
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