MESSAGE requires only a SIP proxy to span this. MSRP could easily have a parallel set of relays. This was actually a fairly typical enterprise network (at least through the mid 1990s), where there is no IP connectivity between the corp net and the Internet. All cross- net connectivity is provided by per-protocol proxies. I built up 50 or more enterprise networks with exactly this property.

SIP is useful without media. You ever use Micosoft's IM client?

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dean

On Dec 5, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:

Dean, according to the picture, there is NO IP CONNECTIVITY between endpoints. Only a SIP proxy connects them. Nothing will work.

Dean Willis wrote:
On Dec 2, 2007, at 10:25 PM, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:

Section 3.1: this is an unrealistic use case. If this were the actual network, no media would be able to flow in the resulting session.

well, MESSAGE methods and presence and probably MSRP would flow. Do you mean to say SIP isn't useful for that sort of application?



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