I totally agree.
They need strong beneficial reasons, not mandates. (ie, the carrot, not the 
stick, or maybe both)

But we also need to figure out how to do this without making calls fail if they 
start/try actually using Tel.  Otherwise no one will.

-hadriel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Francois Audet
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:33 PM
> To: Juha Heinanen; Dean Willis
> Cc: SIP IETF; Paul Kyzivat; Dan WING
> Subject: Re: [Sip] E.164 - who owns it
>
> I'm not sure about that.
>
> It's not because it's mandatory that people implement it (TLS, TCP, SIPS,
> to name a few).
> I think we need instead to explain it is necessary, and what doest it mean
> to various components (i.e., UACs, UASs, and Proxies).
>
> For example:
>
> - UACs MUST support Tel URIs (and use whatever proxy they have
>   available to route requests to Tel URIs). Example, recurse on 302.
>
> - UAs (not sure there are many problems here).
>
> - Proxies. Need to be able to route on Tel URI. If they don't
>   recurse, need to pass 302 with Tel Contact. If they recurse, need
>   to act on it.
>
> Also, we need to warn people on improper usages of Tel URI (stupid
> UA pet tricks). For example, don't use Tel URIs in Contacts other than
> 3XX.
>
> In other words, this is not just as simple adding "must support
> Tel URI" in RFC 3261.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 09:39
> > To: Dean Willis
> > Cc: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); SIP IETF; Paul Kyzivat; Dan WING
> > Subject: Re: [Sip] E.164 - who owns it
> >
> > Dean Willis writes:
> >
> >  > > I have no problem with us recommending Tel URI usage for
> > this, and  > > hoping that implementations will catch-up.
> >  >
> >  > Same here.
> >
> > "recommending" is not enough.  support for  tel uris must be
> > made mandatory.  as i said, if there is a somewhere an
> > rfc3261 bug list, this belongs there.
> >
> > -- juha
> >
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