I agree it should give such guidance.

I believe your connect-reuse draft specifies re-using the TLS connection for 
upstream requests, but says nothing about a mechanism used to keep it open, 
right?  So I was assuming this draft-keep would be orthogonal and complimentary 
to connect-reuse: if the proxy wants to use one of the keepalive mechanisms, it 
could indicate such with keep; if it wanted to allow connection reuse, it would 
do such with alias; and it could do both if it wanted both.  One does not imply 
the other, does it?

-hadriel

> -----Original Message-----
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> Vijay K. Gurbani
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> Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft: draft-holmberg-sip-keep-00.txt
>
> Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
> > Then of course there's a proxy-proxy connection, which this draft
> > will also enable keepalives for.
>
> For proxy-proxy keepalive'd connections, we have used
> the technique in connection-reuse so far (i.e., implicit
> assumption that the sender will keep the connection open
> if there is an "alias" in the topmost Via.)  Connect-reuse
> has been through various WGLCs and is ready to be moved
> forward.
>
> Does draft-holmberg-sip-keep need to say anything about that
> implicit usage through the "alias" parameter?  In other words,
> I can see the look of distress in an implementor's face when
> presented with outbound, connect-reuse, and sip-keep!  Some
> guidance to provide where to use which strategy should be
> detailed in sip-keep.
>
> Comments?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - vijay
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