Hi, 

>Yes, I agree that the draft should avoid such rules. My observation was
specifically in the the "Proxy Behavior" section 
>which mentions only about To header tag creation identifying the
terminated early dialog.
>
>"The  199 provisional response MUST contain a To header tag parameter,
which identifies the early dialog that has been 
>terminated."

Yes. But, that is required in order to identity which early dialog is
terminated.

>It is still worth mentioning about the other informational headers that
the proxy may propagate from received final 
>failure response towards UAC in 199 response.

I guess I could add, to the proxy section, a note saying that the proxy
may include information (including response codes and header values)
from the message which triggered the 199 response.

Regards,

Christer


~Vikram
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Christer Holmberg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>>Besides conveying the indication for terminated early dialog, this
> response can also carry additional information of the
>>reason of termination as indicated by Warning, Reason or History-Info
> header received in the final failure response from
>>UAS to the forking proxy.
>>
>>I think it is worth mentioning the rules of creating this 199 response
> by forking proxy which includes preserving these
>>headers from the actual final failure response.
>
> We need to be a little careful here.
>
> There were long discussions on what the scope of this draft was going 
> to
> be: simply to indicate that an early dialog has been terminated, or to

> go further and solve the whole so called HERPF problem. The agreement 
> was that the scope is to indicate than an early dialog has been 
> terminated.
>
> Now, the draft DOES say the following:
>
> "The UAC MAY use additional information (for example the final 
> response which triggered the 199 response) received in the 199 
> response when initiating new sessions, if it is possible to avoid the 
> new session initation request to be rejected."
>
> So, that doesn't forbid sending of header information etc, but I am 
> not sure that we want to start specifying rules about that - at least 
> not in this draft.
>
>>Earlier, all this information was lost as the forking proxy had to
> suppress the final failure response and had to forward
>>the most appropriate final response back.
>
> I agree. But, again, the question is whether that is within the scope 
> of the draft or not.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christer
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've submitted the first version of the SIP WG 199 draft.
>>
>> It can also be found at:
>>
>> http://users.piuha.net/cholmber/drafts/draft-ietf-sip-199-00.txt
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Christer
>>
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