On Jul 18, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
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From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 17, 2008, at 24:31 , Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
I'm also very surprised SIP can be scheduled in conflict with any
other RAI WG, especially a brand new one. :(
All the RAI groups that requested more than one session had their
second session scheduled in conflict with another meeting.
Having the second slot of a multi-slot WG meeting conflict with
another WG is missing the point if the other WG it conflicts with is
not a multi-slot one. What it's doing then is penalizing the other
WG. For example, it is unfair to DRINKS that SIP conflicts with it
- *DRINKS* didn't ask for two slots.
Agree - this was considered. If this had seemed unworkable for the
DRINKS folks, we would not have done this.
To reiterate what I've posted on the RAI mailing list, I grok the
overlap problem, I think. What I suggest, though, is that the
overlap decision be implemented differently. Instead of just
forcing any RAI WG that needs 2 slots to have its second slot
conflict, choose the conflicts based on topic relativity. One
proposal I posted was to break the groups into topic threads, such
that different threads could conflict but not with the globally
relevant groups (like SIP).
Of course the overlap is considered - but looking at it as the overlap
of everything SIP does and everything DRINKS does it leads one to the
wrong conclusion. A better way to look at it is, can the SIP chairs
arrange the material they have for this specific meeting for three
hours such that the stuff they put in the 1/3 of time that overlaps
with DRINKS does not have large overlap with DRINKS. When you look at
who is participating in the discussion around the items in SIP right
now and the work in DRINKS, I think this is possible. It is certainly
not ideal - a lot of permutations and combinations were looked at -
none were good.
The basic problem is that to create a bunch of time for new work in
RAI, we need to get some of the things currently using time to use
less time - that can be done by finishing work or deciding that work
is not longer a priority and removing it.
Let me put it a different way - what if the second slot for SIP
conflicted with P2PSIP?
-hadriel
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