What was clear from the SIP meeting is we have a communication problem.  We
have several drafts describing the problems.  We have several drafts proposing
solutions to those problems.  We spend time in SIP meetings discussing the
drafts.  

I have no understanding of the objections to John Elewll's scenarios that he
presented.


Cullen and Jon -- as individual contributors and as the authors of RFC4474 --
are you able to provide information to resolve this communication problem?

-d


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Hadriel Kaplan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:33 PM
> To: Cullen Jennings; Elwell, John
> Cc: SIP IETF
> Subject: Re: [Sip] Thoughts on SIP Identity issues
> 
> 
> Cullen,
> I think there was some confusion or miscommunication - it was 
> my impression that what you asked for previously was for just 
> *one* use-case/scenario where 4474 doesn't work the way we'd 
> like, so the WG could focus on that one case and decide if 
> it's legitimate to drive for a different mechanism.  I think 
> that's why John presented just one case.  But at the mic it 
> sounded more like you wanted to know *all* scenarios we 
> thought should be handled.
> 
> Which is it?
> 
> -hadriel
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of
> > Cullen Jennings
> >
> > Hmm, I don't think anyone made quite that argument. Personally, I'd
> > rather spend time thinking about the problems that were presented
> > today in the meeting than repeat previous discussions.
> >
> > Cullen <with my individual hat on>
> 
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