Direct routing has huge benefits in the presence of wireless devices.  The 
current routing choices assume that we need symmetric routing to handle NATs 
and hence, that is the common case.  It turns out that there are several 
cellular networks today that are non-NATed (shocking, but, true for now, at 
least in the US).  So, it would be bad to not take advantage of that for 
improving the lookup latency.  Worse still, by forcing symmetric routing all 
the time, we would have cut the budget for the maximum number of wireless hops 
in one direction to half (with only 3-4 wireless hops budgeted for the entire 
lookup to have an acceptable call setup latency, this makes it significantly 
worse).  

So, we really should make direct routing part of the base spec if we want 
RELOAD working well with wireless devices.  

Vidya 

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> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
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> Subject: [P2PSIP] The case for direct response support in RELOAD
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>   I think we should consider a direct reponse based 
> asymmetric routing as part of the base draft in RELOAD. There 
> are several advantages 1. The latency of a transaction is reduced.
> 2. Given the increasing spread of mobile devices that may 
> participate in such overlays direct response routing can 
> reduce the resource usage on multiple wireless hops.
> 3. Many hosts (such as in mobile broadband networks) are not 
> always behind NATs and in such cases direct response routing 
> is even more beneficial as we do not need to perform ICE.
> 
> Another draft (ref 1) also supports this view.
> 
> openDHT also seems to support such as mode of operation (see 
> Ref 2). While it mainly operates on a testbed with public 
> Ips, one can make the case that there may be many such nodes 
> in a deployed RELOAD overlay. E.g. university machines, 
> wireless hosts etc.
> 
> Ref 1: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-jiang-p2psip-relay-00.txt
> Ref 2: Sean Rhea, Byung-Gon Chun, John Kubiatowicz, and Scott 
> Shenker. Fixing the Embarrassing Slowness of OpenDHT on 
> PlanetLab. Proceedings of USENIX WORLDS 2005, December 2005.
> 
> Thanks
> Saumitra
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