I believe the 800 use case is still a valid problem that has to be
solved.

Do we have another way of using History-Info that would cover this
specific case. For example, do we just need an extension to the
Voicemail URI RFC?

regards

Keith 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Rosenberg
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:27 PM
> To: Shida Schubert
> Cc: [email protected] List
> Subject: Re: [Sip] I-D 
> Action:draft-rosenberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-00.txt
> 
> Actually I removed the 800 use case because it doesn't work 
> so well with the proposed mechanism. The reason is that, this 
> draft is very crisp about how you determine if a URI is a 
> 'target' or not - based on a REGISTRATION. However, for 8xx 
> numbers, my assumption is that they would typically be 
> translated to a non-8xx number by some other configured 
> translation on the server, not via a registration.
> 
> For example, a server might have a config like this:
> 
> 1-800-555-1212:
>    replace with: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> and then individual UAs register as 'directory'.
> 
> In reality this was a problem in the UA loose route draft 
> too; its really hard to programatically determine that 
> something is a target vs. 
> not a target.
> 
> -Jonathan R.
> 
> 
> Shida Schubert wrote:
> > 
> > Jonathan;
> > 
> >  Thanks for writing up the draft.
> > 
> >  There was a use-case for freephone number mentioned in 
> section 2.7 of 
> > loose-route draft which no longer exists in this draft.
> > 
> >  I do recall that in section 2.7 of loose-route you expressed that 
> > freephone number is just another form of alias, so I am 
> assuming that 
> > is the reason you removed the text OR was there any 
> technical reason 
> > why you removed the use-case?
> > 
> >  If there is no technical reason behind removing the text, 
> could you 
> > add its use for freephone number as a use-case either as a separate 
> > sub-section or as part of alias use-case..
> > 
> >  Thanks & Regards
> >   Shida
> > 
> > On 27-Oct-08, at 1:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> >> directories.
> >>
> >>     Title           : Delivery of Request-URI Targets to 
> User Agents
> >>     Author(s)       : J. Rosenberg
> >>     Filename        : 
> draft-rosenberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-00.txt
> >>     Pages           : 12
> >>     Date            : 2008-10-26
> >>
> >> When a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) proxy receives a request 
> >> targeted at a URI identifying a user or resource it is responsible 
> >> for, the proxy translates the URI to a registered contact 
> URI of an 
> >> agent representing that user or resource.  In the process, the 
> >> original URI is removed from the request.  Numerous use cases have 
> >> arisen which require this information to be delivered to the user 
> >> agent.  This document describes these use cases and defines an 
> >> extension to the History-Info header field which allows it 
> to be used 
> >> to support those cases.
> >>
> >> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> >> 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-target-uri-de
> >> livery-00.txt
> >>
> >>
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