Dean, 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 20 November 2008 23:16
> To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
> Cc: Christer Holmberg; Paul Kyzivat; SIP List; Elwell, John
> Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO Framework: Tags
> 
> 
> 
> No, you use the options tag with a sip.extensions media feature tag  
> ala RFC 3840 in order to get a retargeting proxy to send the request  
> only to the subset of UAS that support the extension.
[JRE] RFC 3841 does not compel a proxy to behave in this way, and in
fact the proxy might not even support RFC 3841. So you have to be
prepared for your INVITE/Recv-Info to go to any UAS. I don't in general
see a need to specify this as part of the extension in general, but if a
particular package needs a feature tag, let it define one. Keep the
extension simple.

John


> 
> --
> Dean
> 
> On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
> 
> > You fork OPTIONS requests?
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Christer Holmberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:58 PM
> >> To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Dean Willis; Paul Kyzivat
> >> Cc: SIP List; Elwell, John
> >> Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO Framework: Tags
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> But what does an option tag in OPTIONS tell you over and 
> above a 200
> >> (OK) response to OPTIONS with a Recv-Info header.
> >>
> >> Probably nothing.
> >>
> >> But, it can still be used for the forking.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Christer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Christer Holmberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:53 PM
> >>> To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Dean Willis; Paul Kyzivat
> >>> Cc: SIP List; Elwell, John
> >>> Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO Framework: Tags
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I still think we shall have an option tag for the 
> extension itself.
> >>>
> >>> Eventhough it does not gurantee that the UAS supports 
> specific info
> >>> packages, at least you can use it to help finding a UAS
> >> which supports
> >>
> >>> the extensions (by using the sip.extensions feature tag).
> >>>
> >>> And, as Dean said, it can be used with OPTIONS.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Christer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: DRAGE, Keith (Keith) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:50 AM
> >>> To: Dean Willis; Paul Kyzivat
> >>> Cc: SIP List; Elwell, John; Christer Holmberg
> >>> Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO Framework: Tags
> >>>
> >>> In which case you need an option tag for the info package itself.
> >>>
> >>> Noone is precluding that.
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>>
> >>> Keith
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Dean Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:47 PM
> >>>> To: Paul Kyzivat
> >>>> Cc: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); SIP List; Elwell, John;
> >> Christer Holmberg
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO Framework: Tags
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dean Willis wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If I don't support info-packages, then I MIGHT support
> >>>> old-info. If I
> >>>>>> do, then I MIGHT understand an INFO (or the legacy set),
> >>>> and I MIGHT
> >>>>>> send you one (from the legacy set). But I'm very, very
> >>> unlikely to
> >>>>>> understand any of the new CID-indirection-to-select-a- body,
> >>>>>> multiple-body stuff, so don't send it!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dean,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You don't need an option tag for this. After the invite, I
> >>>> can't send
> >>>>> you an info package unless you have provided a Recv-Info for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay, I'm willing to believe that.
> >>>>
> >>>> What if I have an application that really, really requires
> >>>> info- packages, so I want the call to fail if you can't
> >> handle them?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would this arise, or would it always be preferable to
> >> complete the
> >>>> INVITE exchange, then tear the call down once I find out that you
> >>>> don't?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dean
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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