Bob Penfield wrote:

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:33 AM
To: Christer Holmberg
Cc: [email protected]; Brett Tate
Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-199-02: comments and questions



Christer Holmberg wrote:
Two alternative solutions I can think of:

1. We mandate a forking proxy which supports 199 to store the C/R-R
information received from the UAC, in order to insert it in any 199 it
generates for that session.

2. We say that IF the forking proxy stores the C/R-R information
received from the UAC, it shall insert it in any 199 it generates for
that session.
In effect the proxy is sending the response in lieu of the final
response it is not ready to forward. IMO it ought to include whatever
Contact and R-R is present in that final response. There isn't any need
to *store* that information, since the final response is at hand when
the 199 is being generated.

The problem with this is that the non-2xx final response will not necessarily have 
Record-Route or Contact headers since 3261 does not require it. In fact, a strict 
reading of Table 2 & 3 forbids them in most error responses. If the proxy is going 
to generate a 199 response, it should include the same Record-Route & Contact as 
the original early dialog creating 1xx response.

Good point.

Unfortunately, that significantly raises the bar for the proxy to implement this. It needs to store a lot more state than it otherwise would need. Not a problem for a B2BUA of course, since it already has to store that.

This then leaves us in a situation where a proxy incurs this significant extra cost to support 199, unless we make the inclusion of the R-R and Contact optional in the 199. I guess the Contact is already optional (though we have had discussions about that), but isn't the R-R required in all the provisional responses?

        Thanks,
        Paul
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