Thanks, good point. I was only thinking of the R-URI.

On Apr 8, 2009, at 21:32, "marianne.moh...@orange-ftgroup.com" <marianne.moh...@orange-ftgroup.com > wrote:

Hi,

It is certainly true for those parameters in the R-URI but in the History-Info header it is less obivous because if RFC4244 is respected, the retargeting is yet present in a hi-entry (the proof is that the target parameter has not been especially recommended to be used in 3GPP for CDIV service). The benefit to add the target parameter in the R-URI in the hi-entry is to have in the same hi- entry the redirecting user and the cause-param. So that we can be sure of the redirecting user identity (which could be in an other hi- entry than the one "just before"). But after that, it is still necessary to search in hi-entries the entry concerning the redirecting address to have the Privacy indication (eg. to deliver or not the redireting user identity to the diverted-to user) and to know if the retargeting is caused by a SIP response or not (if the Reason header is escaped).

Regards,
Marianne

-----Message d'origine-----
De : sip-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sip-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Francois Audet
Envoyé : mercredi 8 avril 2009 18:10
À : DRAGE, Keith (Keith); sip@ietf.org
Cc : Cullen Jennings; Elwell,John
Objet : Re: [Sip] Clarification on RFC 4458: SIP URIs for Applications suchas Voicemail and Interactive Voice Response (IVR)

I believe the intention was that target was mandatory, but not cause.

I don't believe having cause but not target would make any sense.

-----Original Message-----
From: DRAGE, Keith (Keith) [mailto:dr...@alcatel-lucent.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 09:07
To: sip@ietf.org
Cc: Cullen Jennings; Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); Elwell, John
Subject: Clarification on RFC 4458: SIP URIs for Applications such as
Voicemail and Interactive Voice Response (IVR)

RFC 4458 defines two SIP URI parameters.

I can find no specific language in the document that indicates whether
these two URI parameters can be used independently of each other, or
whether there is an expectation that both URI parameters should only
exist in the presence of each other. Specifically does an
implementation that only includes the "cause" SIP URI parameter and
not the "target" sip URI parameter conform to this specification?

All the text and examples seem to carry the implication that where one
exists, the other one will also.

Could one of the authors or some other interested party clarify what
they believe the intention is?

regards

Keith

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