Hello Ben,

Can we say in other words that proxy in such case should
indicate used TLS transport by inserting the sips URI in the
Record-Route header instead of using transport=tls parameter.

Kind regards,
- Tomasz Zieleniewski

2009/8/7 BONNAERENS Ben <ben.bonnaer...@alcatel-lucent.be>

> Hello John,
>
> > Well, I know what this means, but will your average reader
> > understand it? I think we are trying to say something along
> > the lines that if the transport protocol changes you SHOULD
> > use the double Record-Route technique, where the differences
> > in transport protocol are reflected in different values of
> > the transport parameter (udp/tcp/sctp) and/or different
> > values of the URI scheme (sip/sips). Correct?
>
> Your phrasing could lead to the understanding that we suggest that
> only a sips URI can be used to identify the TLS interface which is not
> correct.
> As the current text suggests, can the TLS interface be identified by any
> URI
> (sip or sips ; excluding the deprecated transport=tls parameter) that
> resolves via RFC3263 procedures to the TLS transport.
>
> IMHO leaves your suggested phrasing more room for ambiguity
> compared to the current text.
>
> Best regards & thanks,
>
> Ben.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Elwell, John [mailto:john.elw...@siemens-enterprise.com]
> > Sent: donderdag 6 augustus 2009 9:37
> > To: BONNAERENS Ben; sip@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-08 Changes
> >
> > Well, I know what this means, but will your average reader
> > understand it? I think we are trying to say something along
> > the lines that if the transport protocol changes you SHOULD
> > use the double Record-Route technique, where the differences
> > in transport protocol are reflected in different values of
> > the transport parameter (udp/tcp/sctp) and/or different
> > values of the URI scheme (sip/sips). Correct?
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sip-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sip-boun...@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > BONNAERENS Ben
> > > Sent: 05 August 2009 15:23
> > > To: sip@ietf.org
> > > Subject: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-08 Changes
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > version -08 of record-route fix has just been submitted.
> > >
> > > Change log:
> > > - Changed its status from BCP to PS,
> > > - Take into account IESG reviews and subsequent comments on the
> > > mailing lists, they were summarized in Robert Sparks's document
> > > (rrf.txt), so it has been integrated in version -08 with minor
> > > refactoring from the authors (me and Ben).
> > >
> > > The thoughest part was related to the SIP/SIPS question raised by
> > > Cullen
> > (http://datatracker.ietf.org/idtracker/draft-ietf-sip-record-r
> > > oute-fix/c
> > > omment/98624/),
> > > so here is the text that was added in version -08 to answer this
> > > question:
> > > "Thus, if the transport protocol changed between its
> > >    incoming and outgoing sides, the proxy SHOULD use the double
> > >    Record-Route technique and SHOULD add a transport
> > parameter to each
> > >    of the Record-Route URIs it inserts. With the exception
> > that if TLS
> > > is
> > >    used as the transport protocol on either side of the
> > proxy, the URI
> > >    chosen to place in the Record-Route header field value
> > reflecting
> > > the
> > >    interface using TLS will need to leverage the [RFC3263]
> > mechanisms
> > > to
> > >    indicate that TLS must be used rather attempting to use the
> > > deprecated
> > >    "transport=tls" URI parameter. See [RFC3261] Section 26.2.2 and
> > >    [I-D.ietf-sip-sips] Section 3.1.4 for more discussion."
> > >
> > > Brds,
> > > Thomas & Ben
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