Similar to many other of SIP RFCs, RFC4028 has race condition issues.  Thus the 
UAC, UAS, and proxies might not be in agreement concerning session-expires 
value, activation, and/or refresher.

Based upon RFC4028, it is basically the latest negotiated 2xx sent/received.  
Within the call flow provided, the INVITE 2xx's Session-Expires value is 
latest.  However since there can be race conditions associated within UPDATE, 
UPDATE 2xx, and INVITE 2xx, the UAC, UAS, and proxies might not all be in 
agreement concerning which 2xx was the latest.

From: Harbhanu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:44 AM
To: Brett Tate; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Sip] Reg. session timer+earlyupdate

May be your expectation is correct, but here the issue is in defining the 
behavior of UA for the following scenario.
I will rephrase the issue...Which value should the UAC and UAS take for SE and 
interval timer, when either of them is acting as refresher ? i.e.


 1.  UAC refresher, then SE and refresh time for UAC and SE value at UAS?
 2.  UAS refresher, then SE and refresh time for UAS and SE value at UAC?

Please consider the consistency of behavior incase there is a crossover of 2xx 
of UPDATE and that of INVITE.

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From: Brett Tate [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:10 PM
To: Harbhanu; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Sip] Reg. session timer+earlyupdate

The UAS is compliant; thus sending BYE (because think UAS is acting 
incorrectly) is not correct behavior.  If the following is the section 9 
snippet in question, notice that the dialog's previously negotiated 
session-expires value has no relevance; the "MUST NOT" is associated the header 
received within the request.  If you are referring to another "MUST NOT" 
(within this section or another), please send the paragraph.


"  If the UAS wishes to accept the request, it copies the value of the
   Session-Expires header field from the request into the 2xx response.

   The UAS response MAY reduce its value but MUST NOT set it to a

   duration lower than the value in the Min-SE header field in the

   request, if it is present; otherwise the UAS MAY reduce its value but

   MUST NOT set it to a duration lower than 90 seconds.  The UAS MUST

   NOT increase the value of the Session-Expires header field.
"

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harbhanu
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sip] Reg. session timer+earlyupdate

Hi,
We were unable to locate the specific behavior of session timer handling in UA, 
for the following scenario:

1. UE1 --- INVITE SE-1800 --> UE2
2. UE1 <--- 183 ------------------ UE2

3. UE1 --- UPDATE SE-600 --> UE2
4. UE1 <--- 200 UPDATE -SE600 -- UE2

5. UE1 <--- 200 INVITE SE-1800 -- UE2

6. UE1 -------------------------  BYE --> UE2
7. UE1 <--- BYE 200 ------------------ UE2


Here, UE1 sends a BYE since UE2(UAS) has increased the value of session 
expires, which it MUST NOT (4028-Section-9, Page-16).

Please let me know whether this behaviour is correct or not.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Harbhanu

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