They can do whatever they set their minds to... no doubt about that. Fits and starts however don't breed a lot of confidence in customers.
I think OCS is 'getting there' but it is basically version 2 of Live Communications Server. It might be close to right next go-around. By the third release they are usually pretty well on their way. To me, hosted OCS is a lot more interesting than yet another server or two at customer sites. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Todd Hodgen [mailto:t.hod...@misiusystems.com] Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: 'Tony Graziano'; Picher, Michael; ke...@glensound.co.uk; dwor...@nortel.com Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: RE: [sipx-users] interesting post in TMC blogs... off topic but ithought the group might be interested. ON a more serious note, Microsoft has made a substantial investment in a core switch platform, from Nortel. There is a good sized Nortel team assigned specifically to Microsoft to help with development of the OCS platform, and Microsoft is making a serious investment of talent to develop their hosted OCS platform. One US cellular carrier has a network of over 1,000 BCM switches in their retail stores, that are being replaced with OCS and NET media gateways. They have completed their trials and the first stores are rolling out with the new solution now. This is displacing a over $3 Million in investment, much that was just installed in the last couple of years. On one of the tech forums someone laughed at replacing a good working Nortel Key system with a VOIP solution. Not to pick on Nortel, but the same goes for any legacy system from Avaya, Panasonic, or whomever. Companies are doing it today, and it will continue. Vendors can watch or become a part of it. Solutions selling, with OPEX savings is the name of the game today, not business expansion. A simplified, feature rich solution that can utilize lower cost facilities is the name of the game, just as it was in the 1982-1985 period of time. SipXecs is a great solution for those companies looking for facilities savings and new advanced solutions. It wasn't long ago that we laughed at Microsoft trying to get into the browser business against Netscape. Netscape who? They will be a serious competitor, with lots of financial resources, and desire to be in this industry. To view them any different than that I believe would be a mistake. -----Original Message----- From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:49 AM To: mpic...@cmctechgroup.com; ke...@glensound.co.uk; dwor...@nortel.com Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] interesting post in TMC blogs... off topic but ithought the group might be interested. This thread is too funny. I can't resist. Normally I don't pick on MS but the temptation was to great. No offense is meant... B**lmer: "I want it all. Even if we can't do this, we'll scare the competition away. Then one day we we get our sh*t together, at least we won't have to fight, litigate or buy our way into the pie. It's my pie and I don't share."(gets on the phone and makes patent attorneys get busy filing vaporware patents, another call to marketing for more vapor ads)B**lmer holds a press event talking about how wonderful the new thing is. Goes on a teleconference (late as usual) with partners and talks about it. Three years later it's "almost" ready to Beta. Six months after that he hears how any software company actually has a shipping product and is making waves, so he starts cursing and throwing chairs around. A scene right out of the Sooranos. The plot reminds me of a film called "Lover Come Back". http://www.dorisday.net/lover_come_back.html It had Rock Hudson and Doris Day, with Tony Curtis as a supporting actor. My only question is, which one is B**lmer. Laugh, it's supposed to be funny. Tony >>> "Picher, Michael" <mpic...@cmctechgroup.com> 07/18/09 5:39 AM >>> That could be quite a read! "Microsoft is developing..." = "We haven't even started this product yet but we want to stifle the competition and then just buy some company". "Microsoft XYZ Version 1" = "This is really going to suck, but we want to get something out the door." "Microsoft XYZ Version 2" = "Well, we didn't kill this product off yet... it still sucks but we're working on making it suck less..." "Microsoft XYZ Version 2, Service Pack 1" = "We have reduced the suck factor by 50% and this thing might actually work for 50% of users." .... From: Keith Gearty [mailto:ke...@glensound.co.uk] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:40 PM To: Dale Worley Cc: Picher, Michael; sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: Re: [sipx-users] interesting post in TMC blogs... off topic but i thought the group might be interested. Dale Worley wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 13:58 +0100, Keith Gearty wrote: The comments at the bottom of the article (by a Microsoft guy who was working on Response Point) seem to deny the claims in the article. All I see are notices that people are leaving the project and that the current version will continue to be supported. Which translates, in the common tongue, to "product killed". Hmmm. Maybe I need a read a newbie tutorial on interpreting Microsoft marketing crap. </mpic...@cmctechgroup.com> _______________________________________________ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/ _______________________________________________ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/
