Verizon has done everything properly with codec negotiation. The 
wireshark captures show me what I was hoping for.

On 1/6/2010 8:21 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
> Glad you have that worked out. When an invite goes out, it offers codec
> choices, and typically the first agreed match is what will be used. Lesser
> ITSP's WILL fail a call with G722 as the first codec offered, some will look
> for another codec. In my experience the one that fails that negotiation is
> where I start running away from them as a provider. I've said it many times,
> not all ITSP's are equal.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> <sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org>
> To: Todd Hodgen<thod...@verizon.net>; sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
> Sent: Tue Jan 05 23:38:23 2010
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] No G.711 = no Polycom HD voice?
>
> I love these one sided conversations. I really should search a little
> more before I send the email....
> http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/Polycom_SoundPoint_IP_family_table
> At least the answer is in the archives again if anyone searches :)
>
> On 1/5/2010 10:34 PM, mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com wrote:
>    
>> Perhaps I completely misunderstood the Polycom codec configuration page.
>> I just read this:
>> http://track.sipfoundry.org/browse/XX-6785
>> So the 450 uses the  "IP_650" codec group. I didn't realize that. I
>> just assumed the numbers on this page corresponded to the model of the
>> phone. This could be a no brainer for me to fix now. What codec group
>> does the 550 fall under? Is this a Polycom naming convention? Is there
>> somewhere I can look up what model corresponds to what codec group?
>> Pardon my ignorance here. I'm guessing the 550 falls under the 650
>> codec group as well since that model does support G722. Thank you! You
>> guys rock!
>>
>> On 1/5/2010 9:50 PM, mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com wrote:
>>      
>>> I don't see G722 as an option for the most part. I only see that for
>>> the 650. I'm using 450s and 550s. Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2010 9:44 PM, Todd Hodgen wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Why not have the G722 as first option, G729 as second option, and
>>>> then G711
>>>> as third option.  This should put internal G722 to G722 compliant
>>>> phones
>>>> working on that CODEC.  Then, when they leave the system to systems
>>>> that
>>>> don't support G722, they will go to G729 next.  The devices will do
>>>> their
>>>> own end to end negotiations to find the right CODEC to work with.
>>>>
>>>> Eventually, the ITSP's will get to a point where they support G722.
>>>> Once
>>>> they find they are losing market share, they will be the first in
>>>> their own
>>>> minds.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
>>>> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:05 PM
>>>> To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
>>>> Subject: [sipx-users] No G.711 = no Polycom HD voice?
>>>>
>>>> As I was testing our setup with Verizon VOIP, they pointed out that we
>>>> were using G.711. I had left our Polycom 450s and 550s with the default
>>>> codec settings. Verizon stated all of their customers use G.729 for
>>>> general voice use. Their servers do immediately renegotiate to G.711
>>>> when they detect something like touch tone menus. So, at the handset
>>>> level I bumped 'G729AB' to preference 1 and moved everything else
>>>> down 1
>>>> position. It is my understanding that is the only way to control the
>>>> codec used for external calls. This seems to have killed (if it did, I
>>>> certainly understand why) the 'HD Voice' crystal clear calls we had
>>>> from
>>>> internal handset to handset. The little HD symbol doesn't show up on
>>>> the
>>>> phone anymore either. Is this expected? I was told in a previous
>>>> discussion there is no way to have sipx control what codecs are
>>>> used. Is
>>>> there any way at all to keep the HD Voice quality calls for internal
>>>> use
>>>> on our LAN but then still default to G.711 for calls to the outside
>>>> world? I have a single sipx server that has all components running
>>>> on it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks as always. Hopefully one day someone will ask the same questions
>>>> I do and I can return the favor for all the help you guys have given.
>>>> -Matthew
>>>>
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