I'm mobile responding...

Realize your bottlenecks or limitations might be more bandwidth limiting
than the architecture. RTP streams are peer to peer between endpoints on
internal calls.

Remote users and ITSP connections use media relay and sipxbridge,
respectively. How you plan it has a great deal to do with how it will be
used. A PRI does not use bridge nor relay.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Fulmer <kenful...@icstechnologysolutions.com>
To: 'Tony Graziano' <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
Sent: Thu Mar 04 18:41:36 2010
Subject: RE: [sipx-users] 250 Concurrent Calls?

I appreciate your responses. However, I feel like I'm not explaining myself
very well.

When you say the system is highly scalable, are there any numbers / specs
that show just how scalable it is? Does the 250 number for concurrent calls
not include RTP streams?

Basically, we need to understand the numbers. Does any documentation exist
for this?

Thanks,

Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Graziano [mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:31 PM
To: kenful...@icstechnologysolutions.com
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] 250 Concurrent Calls?

Not necessarily. The system is highly scalable. One bridge makes a single
point of failure.

HA is a master/distributed but not a master/slave model. Even so, it is more
preferable (to me anyway) to make any site or group an "island" when it
comes to communications. I find it easier to troubleshoot, plan and operate.
People are always trying to do things with HA and really assume how it all
works.

Good luck, sounds like a lot of fun.
============================
Tony Graziano, Manager
Telephone: 434.984.8430
Fax: 434.984.8431

Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net

LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
Telephone: 434.984.8426
Fax: 434.984.8427

Helpdesk Contract Customers:
http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Fulmer <kenful...@icstechnologysolutions.com>
To: 'Tony Graziano' <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
Sent: Thu Mar 04 18:13:25 2010
Subject: RE: [sipx-users] 250 Concurrent Calls?

I might be misunderstanding the capabilities of the system. Can't we use two
servers in HA (primary and secondary) with a third as a sipXbridge?

I didn't realize each server had to run the proxy services. However, the
third server wouldn't have any phones attached - it would be used for PSTN
call routing.

Is this a configuration that makes a cluster more scalable?

Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Graziano [mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:55 PM
To: kenful...@icstechnologysolutions.com
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] 250 Concurrent Calls?

Understand. I'm not sure how "standalone" it will be. For example, right now
ANY server in HA must run a proxy. Voicemail is another that is not
standalone. Sipxbridge has nothing to do with internal calls, just itsp
connections.

Once you get a handle on the requirements and they make sense on how they
were arrived at, post back.
============================
Tony Graziano, Manager
Telephone: 434.984.8430
Fax: 434.984.8431

Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net

LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
Telephone: 434.984.8426
Fax: 434.984.8427

Helpdesk Contract Customers:
http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Fulmer <kenful...@icstechnologysolutions.com>
To: 'Tony Graziano' <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org <sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org>
Sent: Thu Mar 04 17:43:29 2010
Subject: RE: [sipx-users] 250 Concurrent Calls?

I'm trying to understand how the 250 number was generated.



We'd want to use a dedicated server for the sipXbridge.



Ken



From: Tony Graziano [mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:15 PM
To: Ken Fulmer
Cc: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] 250 Concurrent Calls?





On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Ken Fulmer
<kenful...@icstechnologysolutions.com> wrote:

The admin guide says the following:



A single sipXrelay instance can comfortably handle 250 concurrent calls
within acceptable limits of jitter and delay without becoming a bottleneck.



Does anyone know what server specs are required to get this number of calls
through the server comfortably?



Thanks,



Ken Fulmer




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That's kind of an ambiguous question. It really depends on the roles being
used for the server.



sipxbridge is used for ITSP trunking. If you are also going to have remote
users you need to ask a similar question about media relay I think.
Voicemail/AA/CDR/ACD roles also play a role, as does configuration, and
whether or not this is part of a HA system or not. bandwidth might also play
a part here too.



If you can better describe what you expect your environment or use case, you
can expect better guidance.
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