Questions:
 Can explain the simplest scenario that fails?
 Explain exactly what "external calls" is? incoming, outgoing or both
 Does the scenario start with a call between a polycom hardphone and
spectralink registered as two different extensions?


On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) <
mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  * Polite bump request. *
> If there is anyone who could please help me with the issue below, I would
> greatly appreciate it. I can open a paid support ticket if that is a
> possible route.
>
> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Re: Spectralink 8020 up and
> running - need some help  Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:41:07 -0500  From: Matthew
> Kitchin (public/usenet) 
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>
> The wireshark capture can be downloaded here:
> http://www.dsi-corp.com/mk/transfer030811.zip
>
> On 3/17/2011 10:33 AM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
> I post the email below 2 days ago, but I'm thinking it didn't make it to
> the list because the size was 710 kb. Is there anyone out there who will
> give me a hand with this? I think it could be helpful for many who are
> looking to use these phones. I will try and find a place to upload the the
> file.
>
> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Spectralink
> 8020 up and running  Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:33:58 -0500  From: Matthew
> Kitchin (public/usenet) 
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> Update, and I need some help.
> I have been working with polycom and tested several new firmwares and we
> have troubleshot together. The only remaining issue I still have is
> transfers with external calls.
> Their preferred method of diagnosing is wireshark to capture at the wifi
> level (yes, that has made it a little more tedious for us). That is what I
> am attaching, because that is what their notes below refer too.
> I'm showing them that blind transfers work with other phones, especially
> Polycom Soundpoint phones, but they still asked if I could shed some lite on
> their observations.
> They are being extremely helpful, responsive, interested, and turning out
> updated firmware within a day or 2 every time I give more captures of what
> went wrong. We have at least fixed it so these phones do work (obviously
> with the exception of transfers) with sipx 4.2.1.
> In the attached pcap file, it encrypted with WPA2 and will need to be
> decrypted within Wireshark (I don’t know of any way to save a decrypted
> capture). The ssid is DSI-VOIP and the passphrase is ‘adadadadad’. So you
> can enter ‘wpa-pwd:adadadadad:DSI-VOIP’ as the key under
> Edit/Preferences/Protocols/IEEE 802.11 in Wireshark and enable decryption.
> The info for the call is:
> Spectralink 8020: Ext 9999, IP=10.82.20.223
> Sipx 4.2.1 server: 10.87.20.5
> Verizon Voip, sipxbridge, No IP NAT
>
> The capture is an outbound call placed from the Spectralink 8020 and then a
> failed transfer/
> If anyone can help me explain what is or isn't happening, I would greatly
> appreciate it and I am confident we can get a wifi phone that is 100%
> compatible with sipx and made by polycom.
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew
>
> Polycom Spectralink engineer notes:
> This looks like a problem with the SIPX server.  Basically, the SIPX is
> never sending us the 200 OK for the transfer (INVITE 104):
>
> 2152 send INVITE 102 from 9999 to 95171139 gets 407 and Acks that (gets
> another and Acks that too)
>
> 2195 send INVITE 103 from 9999 to 95171139
> 2203 recv 100 to INVITE 103
> 2653 recv 183 to INVITE 103
>
> 3652 recv 200 ok for INVITE 103
> 3747 send ACK 103
>
> <initial setup for call from 9999 to 95171139 SHOULD BE done here>
>
> 3795 recv another 200 ok for INVITE 103
> 3859 send another ACK 103
>
> 4074 recv another 200 ok for INVITE 103
> 4139 send another ACK 103
>
> 4636 recv another 200 ok for INVITE 103
> 4697 send another ACK 103
>
> 5690 recv another 200 ok for INVITE 103
> 5749 send another ACK 103
>
> 6046 send INVITE 104 from 9999 to to 95171139 with sendonly
> 6054 recv 100 to INVITE 104
>
> 6512 recv another 200 ok for INVITE 103
> 6524 send another ACK 103
>
> 7202 recv another 200 ok for INVITE 103
> 7227 send another ACK 103
>
> 7287 recv BYE 1
> 7299 send 200 ok to BYE 1
>
> Do you have a SIPX contact you can escalate this to?
>
>
>
> On 2/24/2011 2:36 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
> This was their response as far as me sharing the firmware:
> "Excellent news.  Let me know what you find on the transfer issue.
> Now that we have confirmation of the fix we will be rolling this into our
> next GA release.  Feel free to let the user group know that a fix is
> available, but direct them to Polycom support to obtain it for the time
> being."
>
> The Polycom support ticket realted to this is 'Case# 1-103152086'
>
> If anyone has any trouble getting the firmware before it is released, let
> me know.
>
> I will be glad to write a wiki article on how to get these up and running.
>
> On 2/24/2011 1:57 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
> Success. I got an updated firmware from Polycom, and the problem of calls
> to the PSTN crashing is resolved.
>
> Per their notes:
> "The one caveat with this software is that we were never able to reproduce
> the problem.  However we saw in the trace one part of the message header was
> larger than we had buffer space for, which was causing memory overwrites,
> and the fix increases that buffer size.  Give it a test and let me know."
>
> I am waiting to see if they are going to publish the firmware or if they
> mind if I post it here.
> I am having one issue that was occurring before this fix, but I haven't dug
> into it yet. I can't do transfers involving the PSTN. I can do internal
> transfers fine. I will start digging into that next.  I'm going to play with
> some codec settings, and maybe try 4.4 since several other transfer related
> issues I experience with Verizon are resolved/fixed/or something similar in
> 4.4.
>
> On 2/21/2011 11:03 AM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
> I believe there are a few other interested in this. I asked for an update
> today, and I have some hope based on the response:
>
> "We have a good idea of where the bug is and are working on a software fix.
> Our offices are closed today, but I should be able to get a status update
> for you tomorrow. "
>
> On 2/17/2011 10:27 AM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
> For what it is worth, there is a group of Polycom engineers all working on
> this. I have sent them wireshark captures, crash dumps from the phone, and
> various other pieces of information. They have been very quick to respond,
> ask more questions, and seem eager to work on this. Hopefully it will go
> somewhere.
>
> On 2/15/2011 1:23 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
> It looks like I'm having this exact problem:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org/msg14035.html
>
> On 2/15/2011 1:04 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
> Yeah, I am am having some issues after all. I'm getting no audio under
> certain situations.
> I'm assuming this is the option that causes the reboots
>
>
> Time to get the engineer back on the phone.
>
>
> On 2/15/2011 12:32 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
>
> What I have seen is issues with the phones rebooting or not transferring
> calls when being used with "certain ITSP's".
>
> You might do yourself a favor and ensure transfers and other scenarios work
> with your different gateways to see if you have the same problems.
> ============================
> Tony Graziano, Manager
> Telephone: 434.984.8430
> Fax: 434.984.8431
>
> Email: tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
>
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> Telephone: 434.984.8426
> Fax: 434.984.8427
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tue Feb 15 13:30:17 2011
> Subject: [sipx-users] Spectralink 8020 up and running (was: Cisco
> WIP310 -wifiissues)
>
> I am up and running with a Polycom Spectralink 8020.
> I had tried this model once before but gave up.
> There were 2 big differences this time.
> 1) I called Polycom sales first and was given the contact info of an
> engineer that started out with Spectralink
> 2) I got the dual battery charging station that allows you to edit the
> phone directly with the handset administration tool.
>
> I will keep test driving it to see if if I have any issues, but it
> appears to work fine. Parts of the interface are a little quirky
> compared to a Soundpoint 450/550/650, but it looks like it will do the
> job for a basic phone.
>
> Let me know if anyone is interested in any tips on this phone.
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew
>
>
> On 2/11/2011 4:34 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
>  I managed to get the Unidata WPU-7800 working, but it seems like a
> piece of junk. It looks like someone wrote the interface in a foreign
> language and then used and online translator to get it into English.
> Oh well. I'll keep searching.
> You would think there would be a decent wifi sip handset out there.
>
> On 2/10/2011 10:05 AM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>
>  I did. I ordered one of the Spectralink 8020 handsets. I don't want
> to have to buy a Polycom server/wap. I need it to directly user our
> Cisco WAP infrastructure. I managed to get the 8020 converted to SIP,
> but i did not get too much further. It seemed to be a nightmare (for
> me at least) to try and configure from the LCD screen. We could never
> get it to stay on on our wifi network for more than about 10 pings.
> The WIP 310 was at least simple to configure from the web interface.
> I ordered one of these - Unidata WPU-7800. I should have it tomorrow.
> The specs look ok, but I'm not overly hopeful. I looked at the specs
> for the Polycom 8400. It looks like way overkill. I couldn't find a
> price for it, but I imagine it is pretty high.
>
> On 2/10/2011 9:48 AM, Michael Picher wrote:
>
>  i assume you've looked at the Polycom / Kirk stuff...  they have a
> wifi version now.
>
> i did a quick scan of the email thread so i may have missed it.
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Tony Graziano
> <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net <mailto:tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net> 
> <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net>>
> wrote:
>
>     Crappy hardware leaves your experience wanting.
>
>     If it matters, android 2.3 and the current shipping version of
>     honeycomb
>     have a full sip stack that have direct acces to resources for
>     apps to
>     leverage... Stay tuned.
>
>     ============================
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>     Fax: 434.984.8431
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>
>     LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
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>     Fax: 434.984.8427
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>     Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Cisco WIP310 - wifi issues
>
>     Hmmm this could be an interesting alternative to droid x with
>     csipsimple:
>
> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_28it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
> <http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_28it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en> 
> <http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_28it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en>
>
>     ~$99 ea. comes with froyo
>
>     I've found that most of these smart phones have crappy wifi antennas
>     though and roaming sucks!
>
>     Kyle
>
>     On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Michael Scheidell
>     <michael.scheid...@secnap.com
>     <mailto:michael.scheid...@secnap.com> <michael.scheid...@secnap.com>> 
> wrote:
>     > On 2/9/11 12:11 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote:
>     >
>     > Sweet. Time to search some more for the perfect wifi phone.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > motorola droid x with sipcimple on it. :-)
>     >
>     > supports transfer, bluetooth, etc.  only $399 each without a
>     contract. :-(
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