I also decided to test it with other media services (conferencing), and it
only seems to be with voicemail. So I suspect sipx needs a freeswitch tweak
to get around this. Since other media services (AA, conferencing, faxetc.)
have rtp going the other way, it makes me suspect its a voicemail setting
(freeswitch parameter), and I recall there was a "proxy media" setting for
freeswitch invoked to handle fax, so I suspect the media settings in
freeswitch need to be revisited.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Tony Graziano <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
> wrote:

> I doubt that will make a difference. Chicago is a brand new switch, it has
> the same issue with voicemail, just tested.
>
> I think it ought to be determined if this is a sipxbridge issue or 
> voip.msissue.
>
> Alternatively, your voicemail should say "please dont talk over 60
> seconds, make it quick! <BEEP>".
>
> It's strange that its always at 60 seconds, which makes me wonder if
> sipxbridge stops sending RTP keepalive during a freeswitch session. If so,
> that would not be good, but strange it only happens with some voip.msPOP's.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Todd Hodgen <thod...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe VOIP.ms is in the process of updating their switches.  I was
>> told several months ago that Seattle and one other were the two newest.
>> Makes me wonder if only the old ones work correctly, and their new platform
>> does not?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:
>> sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 11, 2011 1:55 PM
>> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] 1 Minute Voicemails with Voip.ms****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Nevermind. I decided that would not work.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I thought the real question is... when the call comes into the Media
>> Server (Freeswitch), is sipxbridge STILL sending any keepalive back on RTP
>> packets. I suspect it is not, because if it did, it probably wouldn't
>> hangup at the other end on you.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Now the real question is -- If sipxbridge is handling the call and the
>> caller hits the voicemail system, does sipxbridge continue to handle rtp
>> keepalive (if so, its not working) or does freeswitch. if freeswitch is (i
>> can't imagine it does, but...) then sipxbridge ought to be able to know
>> this and handle the keepalive or forward it.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Since voip.ms evidently watched a call not get sent the keepalive, and I
>> registered a DID to atlanta just now and tried EVERY rtp keepalive setting
>> in sipxbridge, we ought to zero in on "what is sipxbridge not doing
>> correctly" or "what is sipxbridge sending properly that voip.ms is not
>> interpreting correctly".****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Have you performed a call trace (media/bridge at debug) and got a packet
>> capture? If you do that and think that sipxbridge is not doing something
>> properly, a JIRA ought to be opened. Since noone else has these issues with
>> other carriers (that have been reported), it might just be a voip.msthing, 
>> and if it is their problem, they need to be made aware of it too.
>> ****
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Tony Graziano <
>> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net> wrote:****
>>
>> Have you set the gateway in sipx to "Use Dummy RTP payload" and
>> registered to one of their red headed stepchildren POP's? I say stepchild,
>> because they seem to treat all pop's differently or with favoritism. I'm
>> sure those POP's got what they deserve though.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Gerald Drouillard <
>> gerryl...@drouillard.ca> wrote:****
>>
>> Does anyone know of a sipx rtp "keepalive" setting during voicemail?
>> I just wanted to share this experience for anyone in the future having
>> this problem:****
>>
>> 02:37:02 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Yes, and the voicemail message is
>> capped at exactly 1 min everytime with the 2 dids on this account.
>> 02:37:57 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Calling in through a different ITSP to
>> the same extension does not have that problem.
>> 02:38:31 PM *[Albert]* I see. Please hold on a moment.
>> 02:38:41 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Under this same account the other
>> subaccount does not have the problem
>> 02:40:22 PM *[Albert]* You're using the same PBX and the same network?
>> 02:41:04 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Same version of pbx different location
>> 02:41:22 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I actually have 2 other locations
>> working fine
>> 02:42:33 PM *[Albert]* Ok. Let me check your settings one more time.
>> 02:46:44 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I see a rate limiting entry on the
>> firewall. I disabled and will try again.
>> 02:48:41 PM *[Albert]* Sure let me know if that helps.
>> 02:49:18 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Nope.
>> 02:52:31 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* The "bye" does come from your system.
>> 02:53:43 PM *[Albert]* Ok, hold on a moment.
>> 02:55:22 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Is there a "hang up on 1 min of
>> silence coming from my pbx" setting on your side?
>> 02:59:11 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I am rebooting the system now to
>> disable one other iptables rule.
>> 02:59:59 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Keep in mind though it does work
>> coming in from another ITSP
>> 03:00:57 PM *[Albert]* Yes, we understand. We are currently reviewing
>> the trace. Please make any test that you try convenient and let us know if
>> that helps.
>> 03:09:22 PM *[Albert]* Gerald, can you let me know if the call that goes
>> to your voicemail is put in hold or something like that.
>> 03:10:26 PM *[Albert]* Because we don't have any timeout setting if the
>> call remain in silence during a period of time.
>> 03:14:22 PM *[Albert]* Also notice that at the moment our server have a
>> timeout of 60 seconds if we don't receive any RTP packages. In that case if
>> your system/device doesn't send any RTP package during that time the call
>> is ended.
>> 03:15:26 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I doubt it, the trace shows ringing,
>> then IVR.
>> 03:15:54 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* When leaving a voicemail over 60 sec?
>> 03:16:27 PM *[Albert]* Gerald can you please make a test using our
>> newyork or Los Angeles, we have that setting to 15 minutes in those servers.
>> 03:17:17 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* ok. Do I have to switch the subaccount
>> setting or can I just log into newyork?
>> 03:18:06 PM *[Albert]* You need to change the server in your system and
>> also change the Point of Presence in the DID number.
>> 03:21:32 PM *[Albert]* Gerald, once you change those settings, please
>> test again.
>> 03:22:28 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* The settings are changed. The pbx is
>> logging into newyork
>> 03:22:44 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I'll make the call now
>> 03:22:50 PM *[Albert]* Ok. Sure.
>> 03:25:45 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* That seems to be working. Got past 1
>> min
>> 03:25:59 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* What pop's have the 60 sec rule?
>> 03:27:00 PM *[Albert]* Only Newyork and los Angeles have a rule to 15
>> minutes. For the other servers is set to 60 seconds.
>> 03:28:10 PM *[Albert]* What seems to be happening is that the device
>> stops sending RTP packages when enters to voicemail. Please try to find a
>> settings that avoids this behavior and that issue should not occur.
>> 03:28:57 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Why would it send RTP if it does not
>> have to send anything in vm?
>> 03:29:11 PM *[Albert]* In order to keep the connection alive.
>> 03:29:40 PM *[Albert]* I can also suggest that you perform a firmware
>> update to see if that helps.
>> 03:30:16 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* All systems are up to date.
>> 03:30:36 PM *[Albert]* Please notice, that this is a security measure in
>> order to avoid the calls keep connected when the device is not sending any
>> information.
>> 03:31:13 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* There is a keep alive setting that is
>> set to none at the moment. I am guessing that needs to be RTP for you?
>> 03:33:36 PM *[Albert]* That settings usually works for the registration.
>> 03:34:28 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I don't think there is a setting
>> during voicemail to "keepalive"
>> 03:34:32 PM *[Albert]* The keep alive setting, it's to prevent a router
>> from closing it's NAT External port.
>> 03:35:06 PM *[Albert]* In that case Gerald, I can suggest that you use
>> our Newyork or Los Angeles server for the meantime.
>> 03:35:35 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* There is a NAT setting in voip.ms.
>> Would turning that off work?
>> 03:36:56 PM *[Albert]* No, that would not work. Please notice that you
>> need to find any setting related with the RTP packages.****
>>
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> -- ****
>>
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>>
>> --------------------------------------****
>>
>> Gerald Drouillard****
>>
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>>
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>>
>> http://www.Drouillard.biz****
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