On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 11:44, Sean Dague wrote:
> I had not seen that yet, but it will happen if 'hostname' is never
> specified, which I think only happens in the 'static_dhcp' case.  In the
> current form System Configurator will blast out the hostname.
> 
> I can change it to get rid of the error, however it will mean that using
> 'static_dhcp' will mean that all installed clients will a) think they are
> the same name as the golden-client (in a harvested image) or b) not have an
> /etc/hostname file at all (in a built image).  
> 
> I think we need to think about getting rid of the two dhcp options, and
> making the behavior of dynamic_dhcp be the one defined as "dhcp".

We've had some discussion on this subject in the past.  I am open to
consolidating the options, and if I recall, no one on the systemimager
lists complained about the idea.  I have been proceeding with the
expectation of doing that at some point.

The justification for the current behavior was that on certain systems,
RedHat in particular, if you leave the hostname blank, it will set the
hostname based on what is provided by the DHCP server.  Debian, however,
just doesn't set the hostname.

So perhaps we should treat this as two seperate issues, and have the
following two options:
        * -ip-assignment dhcp/static/replicant
        * -set-hostname true/false

-Brian


> 
>       -Sean
> 
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:35:00AM -0500, Brian Finley wrote:
> > Sean,
> > 
> > By the way, have you seen the error message that System Configurator
> > produces at the end of an install?
> > 
> > "Use of uninitialized value in print at
> > /usr/lib/systemconfig/Network/Interfaces.pm line 105"
> > 
> > -Brian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 13:11, Sean Dague wrote:
> > > Excellent!
> > > 
> > > A couple of things.  I was trying to build systemimager 2.1.x tree on my
> > > workstation (Mandrake 8.2).  The following went arry.
> > > 
> > > 1) 'make docs' blows up.  I can send in more errors if you like.  (It is
> > > basically the same sgml convertion errors we got in the past.)
> > > 
> > > 2) when I try to do 'make initrd.gz' and it builds the kernel, it hangs.  It
> > > appears that the config file in CVS is not the latest and greatest, so 'make
> > > oldconfig' is hanging waiting for standard in on some new options.  Any
> > > chance this just didn't get checked in?
> > > 
> > > Issue 1 would be nice to resolve, though issue 2 is far more critical. 
> > > Looking forward to banging away at the new code.
> > > 
> > >   -Sean
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 02:55:19PM -0500, Brian Finley wrote:
> > > > A couple of important additions:
> > > >         * Gigabit Ethernet support on auto-install clients.
> > > >         * Many additional features in BOEL, including a "vi" editor and
> > > >           filename completion.
> > > >         * syslogd
> > > >             * Auto-install clients can send their syslog messages to the
> > > >               image server, or to a separate logging server.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers, -Brian
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 10:29, Brian Finley wrote:
> > > > > Greetings and salutations,
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is an update of the current status of the SystemImager development
> > > > > code.  The following are some of the key features or modifications that
> > > > > will be included in the next stable release(1).  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Current status of code to be included in next stable release:
> > > > >         * Modular kernel
> > > > >             * SCSI, file system, other drivers compiled as modules.
> > > > >             * Network drivers compiled in statically.
> > > > >             * Many more network drivers compiled in.
> > > > >             * "Module only" drivers can be used, including network
> > > > >               drivers.
> > > > >             * Allows a "complete" kernel to be provided with
> > > > >               SystemImager
> > > > >             * Makes it possible to add support for additional file
> > > > >               systems much more easily.
> > > > >         * Hardware auto-detection
> > > > >             * Necessary modules are automatically loaded.
> > > > >         * devfs is used
> > > > >             * Eliminates the need to keep up with device files for new
> > > > >               block devices as they get added (Hardware RAID controllers
> > > > >               for example).
> > > > >             * Building of initrd.gz from source code happens faster.
> > > > >         * tmpfs
> > > > >             * BOEL(2) now uses tmpfs as it's root file system.
> > > > >             * Size constraint of files that can be copied to the in
> > > > >               memory file system on auto-install clients is effectively
> > > > >               eliminated.  See
> > > > >               /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt for
> > > > >               details.
> > > > >         * boel_binaries tarball
> > > > >             * A single tarball of additional binaries (that don't fit on
> > > > >               the auto-install media) is now pulled over to auto-install
> > > > >               clients once network connectivity is achieved.
> > > > >             * This tarball contains additional kernel modules and other
> > > > >               binaries, such as mke2fs, mkraid, mkreiserfs, and their
> > > > >               shared libraries.
> > > > >         * HP Smart Array 5xxx series
> > > > >             * Support for the HP Smart Array 5xxx series of hardware
> > > > >               RAID controllers has been added.  These devices use
> > > > >               /dev/cciss/* device files.
> > > > >         * Other HP Smart Array controllers
> > > > >             * Support for HP Smart Array controllers that use /dev/ida/*
> > > > >               device files has been added.
> > > > >         * IA64
> > > > >             * IA64 support has been added.
> > > > >             * GPT (GUID Partition Table) support has been added.
> > > > >         * Build environment
> > > > >             * The entire SystemImager package can be built on any
> > > > >               distribution.  It is no longer limited to a hand modified
> > > > >               version of a specific Debian release.  
> > > > >             * Debian rocks, and I will continue to use it as *my*
> > > > >               development environment, but this will make it much easier
> > > > >               for packaging into other distributions, and for
> > > > >               maintaining past releases.
> > > > >         
> > > > > Additional features in progress:
> > > > >         * Dynamic Partitioning support
> > > > >             * Giving users the ability to specify percentages or
> > > > >               megabytes for partition schemes.
> > > > >             * Easily change file system types used by an image.  This
> > > > >               will an image pulled from a golden client using ext2 to be
> > > > >               deployed on a machine as reiserfs, for example.
> > > > >             * Easily change destination disks.  This will allow an image
> > > > >               pulled from a machine with IDE disks to be installed on a
> > > > >               machine with SCSI disks.
> > > > >             * A single image can me used across machines using different
> > > > >               drive types and different file system types.
> > > > >         * Netboot control
> > > > >             * The ability to control which PXE enabled machines boot
> > > > >               from the network, and when they boot.  This will give the
> > > > >               system administrator control over network booting so that
> > > > >               a machine can be made to boot from the network for an
> > > > >               auto-install, but not boot from the network after
> > > > >               completing the install.
> > > > >         
> > > > > Certainly it's not possible to include all improvements here, but as you
> > > > > can see, there have been quite a few.  Many of them are structural
> > > > > changes that will significantly improve our ability to add support to
> > > > > SystemImager for new file systems, hardware, and architectures.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > And of course you will see a number of bug fixes.  The 2.0.x series
> > > > > happened to be a particularly buggy series.  I'm afraid that this was
> > > > > partially due to my limited involvement due to lack of funding at the
> > > > > time.  Funding levels have increased, and I'm anticipating this next
> > > > > release to be a very stable release.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you have other features or modifications that you would like to see,
> > > > > please submit a feature request (http://systemimager.org/support/) or
> > > > > contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to commission development.  If a
> > > > > feature you are interested in is already listed, please add a "ME TOO!"
> > > > > comment as a logged in SourceForge user.  This will help me determine
> > > > > demand for certain features.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Finally, I would expect you're wondering when this release will happen
> > > > > and what it will be called.  I am hoping to make this release prior to
> > > > > September, and currently have it slated to be called "3.0.0".  There
> > > > > have been enough architectural changes that I believe the changing of
> > > > > the first digit is warranted.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Notes:  
> > > > > 
> > > > >         1. All of this is subject to change prior to release.
> > > > >         2. BOEL is Brian's Own Embedded Linux.  It is the embedded Linux
> > > > >            used to auto-install clients.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please feel free to forward this message on to other lists, or groups
> > > > > that use SystemImager and System Installation Suite (SIS).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers, -Brian
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > > >  Brian Elliott Finley  http://baldguysoftware.com/
> > > > >   phone: 214.280.8188  http://systemimager.org/           
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > >  Brian Elliott Finley  http://baldguysoftware.com/
> > > >   phone: 214.280.8188  http://systemimager.org/           
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------
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> > > Sean Dague                [EMAIL PROTECTED]               http://dague.net
> > > 
> > > There is no silver bullet.  Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than
> > > zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down.
> > > _______________________________________________________________________
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> >   phone: 214.280.8188  http://systemimager.org/           
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> _______________________________________________________________________
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> Sean Dague                [EMAIL PROTECTED]               http://dague.net
> 
> There is no silver bullet.  Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than
> zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down.
> _______________________________________________________________________
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