On 23 May 2010, at 6:16 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote:
Hello Ian,
just to get back to the situation I'm observing:
Although I have published a detailed spec on improving the
JavaScript binding for XPath in the DOM mailing list a long time ago
I didn't even receive any response indicating that anyone has read
my comments on that. I understand that the different W3C groups may
have different priorities, but I would expect to have at least one
front-desk person available who informs me about where my issues
have been forwarded to and how they are being dealt with. For
example, Microsoft Connect and Microsoft Forums work this way.
Same for my CSS discussions: The last comment I received was on
March 30th.
From that day on a long-taking break occurred which lasts until now
although
we had been up to five persons vividly discussing this. From one day
to the other suddenly no-one replied anymore. And now I don't know
what the current status of this discussion is. Will there be follow-
ups? Is there just a two-month period of banking holidays?
This is very frustrating.
Hi Axel,
I'm seeking some additional feedback internally. I expect to get back
to you before the end of the week.
_ Ian
Cheers,
Axel Dahmen
www.axeldahmen.de
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"Ian Jacobs" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email protected]
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On 2 May 2010, at 6:36 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote:
Hi, Ian,
thanks für replying.
Yes, you are right, the HTML group was quite responsive, right as
the CSS group was. But from one day to the other I didn't get any
further replies. In no mailing-list or whatsoever.
Hi Alex,
I don't exactly know how the HTML WG responds to issues that are
being tracked in bugzilla. I had assumed that when an issue was
"closed" (for some definition of "closed") that the commenter
would receive notice.
Particularly my comments/proposal on the DOM XPath JavaScript
binding and on Frames Through CSS seem a very important issue to
me, because I believe they take programming in these contexts one
step ahead.
Currently I have the feeling that anything I write ends up either
in a Junk folder or in some killing file. The Bugzilla
application on HTML5 is the only channel I believe I can trust to
track back my content.
On the HTML WG home page:
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/
I see both "bugzilla" and "tracker"; so tracker may offer a way to
follow progress as well:
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/
You may wish to write to the Team contact (Mike Smith
<[email protected]>) for more information about how to track your
suggestions.
_ Ian
(I have requested GMANE to add the site-comments mailing list to
its newsgroup archive. As soon as the group exists there I will
continue from there. I can better read/respond from a threaded
environment.)
Cheers,
Axel Dahmen
---- Am Do, 29 Apr 2010 05:36:11 -0700 Ian Jacobs <[email protected]>
schrieb ----
On 29 Apr 2010, at 1:12 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote:
To whom it may concern,
on the W3C website it says "Participate - W3C invites the public
to
participate in W3C via discussion lists, events, blogs,
translations, and other means described below."
After unsuccessfully trying to constructively participate in the
CSS
and DOM mailing lists I now don't believe that the above claim is
actually lived.
I have made a few contributions pointing to missing features in
existing standards and trying to enhance upcoming standards. Yet I
don't get a reaction on my postings.
Once I had a constructive discussion in the CSS mailing list but
that ceased from one day to another. My contributions to the DOM
are
plainly disregarded.
This is very frustrating, particularly because my contributions
are
not junk I just throw into public. For most of them I have been
revising and researching the background to my comments for
almost a
week.
Is ignoring contributions the way the W3C understands the term
"participate"?
Your response is highly appreciated. Even to this e-mail.
Hello Axel,
I've looked around the archives a bit. For instance, I see a
response
from the HTML WG editor regarding one of your proposals:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9337
And I see a discussion here:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6155
And here:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9235
I have not looked at all of the threads on which you participated
or
sent ideas (and I have not looked for comments related to the Dom).
But I do see discussion and contributions from a variety of
people on
the list. For the comments I looked at, your suggestions were not
simply ignored. It does look like the HTML WG has not taken them
up.
That is a separate matter, and I do understand that that WG has
a high
bar for accepting proposals, from people formally in the WG or
anybody
else.
The HTML WG adopted a decision policy in November 2009 [1]. I
believe
that the policy sets the expectation that the Editor will make a
certain number of decisions on behalf of the group, and if those
who
send comments are not satisfied with the Editor's decision, there
is
an escalation process to the WG. I have not researched whether you
have pursued the escalation path.
_ Ian
[1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html
Yours, sincerely,
Axel Dahmen
www.axeldahmen.de
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