On 22 Jun 2010, at 11:15 AM, Dunn, Robert wrote:

Ian,

        Thanks for the extremely quick response.

The context for wanting W3C's definition of a service and a web service is from an architecture viewpoint. Firstly, I need to be able to quantify whether the architecture describes services or web services (or if both, which is which). Secondly, it's rather difficult to convince folks that a particular architecture describes web services if the only definition for a service or web service says something like "... is implemented using WSDL." Finally, when somebody asks what is a service or web service (within the viewpoint of W3C) I need to be able to provide your definition.

A more flippant response is: if I say "I'll Roshambo you for it" I expect you will want to know if I'm using Eric Cartman's definition.

        Common definitions provide for common expectations.

Hi Robert,

W3C did publish this Web Services Architecture Note in 2004, but I don't now how relevant it is today:
  http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/NOTE-ws-arch-20040211/

There was a definition therein:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/NOTE-ws-arch-20040211/#service

"A service is an abstract resource that represents a capability of performing tasks that represents a coherent functionality from the point of view of provider entities and requester entities. To be used, a service must be realized by a concrete provider agent."

Views may have changed in 6 years, but we don't have an active effort to update this document.

 _ Ian



Very respectfully,


Robert Dunn


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Subject: Re: [Moderator Action] Definitions: Service and Web Service


On 22 Jun 2010, at 10:19 AM, Dunn, Robert wrote:

Dear W3C,

           Where on your site will I find the definitions for
Service and Web Service?

           I can find how to define (describe) a web service and
countless use of the term service.

           A W3C lexicon would be most excellent.  "Architecture of
the World Wide Web, Volume One" contains some good definitions for
the W3C lexicon.  A glossary would also be another best practice to
have in every W3C specification / standard.


Hello Robert,

We have this glossary, alas not actively maintained:
  http://www.w3.org/2003/glossary/

There is a search capability.

May I ask in what context you are looking for definitions?

 _ Ian




Very respectfully,


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