On 20 Jan 2011, at 7:51 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

As the main site's CSS has recently changed, revisiting the issues raised in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/site-comments/2009Nov/0048.html and its progeny now seems appropriate.

Hi Felix,

Regarding point 2 first: why not HTML5 yet? I am sure we'll get there. It's a question of resources primarily.

Regarding the QA tip on setting a default font size: I have not received feedback from many users that the site is unusable with the current settings. I am merely reporting that fact, not concluding anything from it.

The QA tip articulates the principle (respect user prefs) and the practical consideration. I am sorry that you think I am being hypocritical in trying to document the situation as I understand it.

If you have suggestions for improving the tip so that people understand the story fully, I can certainly try to improve the page.

  Ian


From: http://www.w3.org/
http://www.w3.org/2008/site/css/advanced line 1:
body {font-size: .82em}
http://www.w3.org/2008/site/css/advanced line 4:
#w3c_container {font-size: 108%}

This nets 88.56% as base font size on the main content wrapper, 14.16px by virtue of most web browsers' default settings.

From http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/font-size (2008 version):
'Size: respect the users' preferences, avoid small size for content

As a base font size for a document, 1em (or 100%) is equivalent to setting the font size to the user's preference. Use this as a basis for your font sizes, and avoid setting a smaller base font size Avoid sizes in em smaller than 1em for text body, except maybe for copyright statements or other kinds of "fine print."'

Current version:
'Size: respect the users' preferences, avoid small size for content

As a base font size for a document, 1em (or 100%) is equivalent to setting the font size to the user's preference. Many users prefer that designers do this because it means that the text size will follow user preferences. However, because many sites do adjust the base font size, setting a base font size to 1em may result in text size that looks inconsistent from other sites. Note: after discussion in 2009, W3C adopted this approach for its own redesigned site. Avoid sizes in em smaller than 1em for text body, except maybe for copyright statements or other kinds of "fine print."'

So, the QA tips page is de facto inconsistent, recommending that readers follow the tip, while the W3 continues to do what it recommends against.





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