On 1 May 2008, at 10:19 AM, Claus Atzenbeck wrote:

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> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Open Skim-enhanced PDFs (feature  
> proposal)
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> On Thu, 1 May 2008, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>
>>> 1. Add to the preferences something like "Open .skim file  
>>> additionally
>>> opens PDF" and "Open .skim file exclusively opens PDF" (the latter
>>> would
>>> close the .skim file and the PDF would be the only remaining  
>>> window).
>>>
>>
>> That would mean you can't open .skim files by itself. Moreover it
>> would be messing with the standard document architecture, and  
>> fighting
>> against the frameworks always leads to a lot of pain, even if it  
>> seems
>> simple at first sight.
>
> What I meant would not fight against frameworks. It simply would call
> the associated PDF when a .skim file is opened. In other words: when
> opening the .skim file, the same function would be called as if the  
> user
> would manually click on the "Open PDF" button on the .skim file  
> window.
>

You mean opening *both*? Many users would object to that, as it is  
totally unexpected behavior. My other objections still stand.

>>> 2. Option + double click in Finder opens a file, but closes the  
>>> Finder
>>> window. It would be good to have a similar behavior for the "Open  
>>> PDF"
>>> button at the .skim file window: Option + click opens the PDF and
>>> closes
>>> the .skim file window.
>>>
>>
>> Skim doesn't know *how* you opened the file, only that it should open
>> a file. So even if I would think it a good idea it would not be
>> possible.
>
> There is a misunderstanding: I proposed a variant of opening PDFs from
> within the associated .skim file window: Each .skim file window has a
> button "Open PDF". Clicking on this button opens the associated PDF,  
> but
> leaves the .skim file window open. Similar what the Finder does for
> files, I would like to have the feature of Option+click for the "Open
> PDF" button on the .skim file window. This would close the .skim file
> window additionally to opening the PDF. (This has nothing to do with  
> the
> Finder, I just used to Finder as a reference to similar behavior.)
>

Same withv a button. A button has a click action. Not an option-click  
action or something. Moreover it would be too much hidden, it's not  
intuitive at all. Finder is a completely custom view, so no standard  
behavior and standard expectations. Also this feature in Finder is  
totally hidden (I didn't even know about it). So it's not a good  
example, unless as an example why not to do it.

Christiaan

> Currently, I have to click "Open PDF", then use e.g. Exposé to get  
> back
> to the .skim file window in order to close it. Using Option+click on  
> the
> "Open PDF" button would make things more efficient.
>
>> There's a hidden pref to set the creator code for files with Skim
>> notes, see the Wiki for details. It won't be in the pref window.
>
> Thanks. I'll take a look at that.
>
> Cheers,
> Claus
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