On 11 Sep 2008, at 4:54 PM, Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

> Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>> What you ask
>> is not really possible using Cocoa outlineviews, at least I cannot
>> find any API to supply the initial state of expandable rows.
>
> ... and (at least to me) it is not immediately obvious how/where this
> information is stored in the PDF file. :(
>

It's not about storage, that's available, at least on Leopard. It's  
about telling the view whether the item should be initially expanded  
or not. It just assumes every item is initially collapsed, and doesn't  
bother to ask or allows you to override this behavior. This is a  
limitation of Apple's AppKit API. I've filed an enhancement request  
with Apple (which, surprise, was promptly marked as a duplicate).

> Just as ideas for new features:
>
> 1)
> The "problem" is, that Skim collapses the
> outlineview/Table-of-Contents-Tree every time the document is  
> reloaded.
> So after every latex-recompile it is (for a large document) a good
> number of clicks to reopen the sub-tree one is interested in and
> currently working on ...
> Would it be difficult to keep the tree open (if it did not change)?
>

Preserving the selection is just as problematic as initializing it.  
And initially just always expand the items is possible, but I don't  
think a good idea. For a large number of items you quickly lose the  
overview, I personally hate it. Note that we do this partially: the  
root item is opened by default. You could argue if you would like the  
next level open by default, certainly not more. But I have several  
documents where even expanding the next level is annoying.

> 2)
> One could think about if auto-expanding the branch of the tree
> corresponding to the page that is momentarily displayed would make  
> sense ...
>
> Cheers,
> /Konrad

I don't think so. It has the same problem, in the end all items will  
be open. And it's annoying if you want to close an item and Skim  
overrules thyat decision.

A tip: when you option-click an expansion triangle, all child items  
will be expanded or collapsed as well. So you can quickly open the  
full table by twice option-clicking the root item. This is a general  
behavior of Cocoa outline views.

Anyway, I found a way to do it at least partially. That is, at least  
the items that should initially be visible will be expanded if they're  
supposed to be.

Christiaan


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