Christiaan Hofman wrote:
On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:06, thecolourblue wrote:

Hi,

I know the issue of using Skim for reading djvu files has been brought up several times here (and always rejected)- I thought I would try again ;)

Why, if you know the answer?

Christiaan

Hi,

Did you read the rest of my email?

The issue has been brought up several times before, so there is clearly an expressed demand for it, and given the poor state of djvu readers on the mac, I suspect a large amount of unexpressed support. I think the reasons for rejecting the idea out of hand are not well justified, which is why I brought it up again.

The given reasons on the archive for dismissing it are that djvu support is out of the scope for Skim, and technical reasons to with Skim using apple's PDFKit for display. In terms of scope, I think displaying djvu is clearly within the scope of the Skim program (at least for me, and others who have requested the feature). For some kinds of scanned documents (but not only that), djvu is considered a better format than pdf (significantly better quality at greater compression ratios). For these documents where both pdf's and djvu's are commonly used it makes sense to have one program to read them (and I think is currently the best reader)- the functions one needs are exactly the same, display, zoom, print, skip to page etc. This is nothing like asking Skim to support lots of different file types like office .docx documents or photoshop .psd's- but more like its existing support for dvi files (which it simply converts to pdf).

The technical arguments are more of an issue since Skim gets its pdf support for free from PDFKit, and no such support is currently available for djvu files. However, there are gpl libraries available for reading and displaying djvu files and if they could be coaxed into a framework which provided something like the functionality of PDFKit, then surely including support in Skim would be a very simple job? There would be no need for extra functionality in the existing Skim code- no interface changes for example.

Of course, there is no suggestion that you personally should do this work. I would appreciate your advice, given your intimate knowledge of Skim, on how it could be done, and ask if anyone else is prepared to help?

regards,

tcb



The justification is simple- I have lots of pdf's which I enjoy reading and annotating with Skim- I also have lots of djvu's which I would like to read with Skim also. The djvu's are mostly scanned documents, for which djvu seems to do a much better job at representing than pdf's (I could convert them to pdf's but it would take a *long* time, and increase my disk space by a factor of about 7). The readers for djvu's on the mac are poor, but Skim is excellent, and it would be great if it would display djvu's too.

The technical arguments are that Skim uses apple's PDFKit to render the pdf's and there is no support for djvu. But the djvu libraries are freely available- if they could be massaged to provide a DJVUKit which would read and display djvu's then could such functionality be easily integrated into Skim? Of course, some things might not work (I dont know about notes or searching), but if Skim could just display my djvu's like a pdf, then I would be v. happy.

Any thoughts?



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