On Jun 13, 2014, at 13:24, Jan Jakob Bornheim wrote:
>
> On 13 Jun, 2014, at 13:12, Schneider <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Christiaan:
>>
>>> It is not an option. First of all, the PDF display, including the
>>> scroll view, is implemented by Apple, not by us.
>>
>> But it exists in Skim under continuous mode and the jump version exists
>> with Adobe.
No, it doesn't. The whole point is that jumping by using a scrollbar is not
scrolling through a view.
And please, don't take Adobe (or Microsoft for that matter) as an example of
anything (except for how not to do things on Mac.)
>>> Second, it is not a
>>> good idea, as it goes against the general way scroll views work, and
>>> consistency is a very bug deal in Mac OSX.
>>
>> Since Apple dropped Expose and Spaces (well designed functions) and
>> replaced them with the impossible to use Mission Control, I don't have
>> much respect for Apple design capabilities anymore. (Steve Jobs is
>> gone and they don't know what they are doing anymore.) The function
>> exists in Adobe, it would be highly useful in Skim.
>>
>> Compare: currently if I have a 200 page document, to get to the end I
>> have to enter a number in the little box. That's very awkward.
>
> If you hit alt-cmd-g you can go to any page without lifting your hands from
> the keyboard. That is the very opposite of awkward.
>
In fact, you can just type a page number without anything else, at least when
the PDF has the focus.
>> The
>> alternatives are worse - page down for a minute or two or switch to
>> continuous mode and then back again. A sliding bar with discrete
>> intervals at page boundaries solves this simply and elegantly.
>
> I must confess I don’t fully understand the problem. To the left of the page
> down button on a normal keyboard is the end button, which will take you to
> the end of a document. Hitting fn and the right arrow achieves the same
> result. Furthermore, you can enable the thumbnails content pane for Skim via
> the menubar (View-Thumbnails). Scrolling through a 211 pages document takes
> me less than five seconds that way. I also didn’t have any trouble stopping
> the scrolling for any arbitary page (I timed myself seeing how long it would
> take me to get to random pre-selected pages that way)
>
> Jan Jakob
Moreover, key repeat: hold a key to repeat the action fast.
Anyway, the bottom line is that the scroll bar is provided by Apple, not us. If
you feel strongly about this function you should ask them, not us. But I give
you a chance close to zero (knowing them, they probably say the same I said.)
Christiaan
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