> On Oct 11, 2016, at 21:51, Guillaume Daudin <gdau...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Christiaan,
>
> Ah, I might have mixed things up (I am using the French version).
>
> shift+cmd+R is Automatically Resize and
> cmd+_ is zoom to fit ?
>
That’s correct (auto resize is "keep zoomed to fit", rather than a one time
zoom to fit).
> Anyway, whether I do one or the other it does not change the issue I have
> with the "annotated" file.
>
> I am indeed on Single Page. I do not have the issue when I do «Page Unique en
> continu» (which is probably "continuous scrolling").
>
> The keyboard up arrow (nor page up) does not navigate at all (the buttons
> work fine).
>
> The down arrow works like a charm.
>
That’s really weird, as the implementations are the exact mirror image of each
other.
I wish I knew why tis was happening, but I don’t, so I fear I cannot fix this.
All I can hope Apple will fix this, though they didn’t in 10.11, and they
didn’t in 10.12.
> Ah. Zooming out (or in) solves the issue (well, my text is too small/big now…)
>
> It works fine with the test version you put on forge, except that when I zoom
> in (but not in zoom to fit), up and down arrows + space and shift_space work
> strangely. E.g. space takes me to the bottom of the page and then the
> preceding page rather than the following one. down arrow to the top and then
> the following page …
>
> Guillaume
>
Thanks for testing this. So apparently PDFKit still works the same way it did
on 10.11, which means buggy. Even if Apple assured me they fixed it, for the
second time, and they lied, again.
Christiaan
> On 11 Oct 2016, at 18:56, skim-app-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
> <mailto:skim-app-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:11:55 +0200
> From: Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com <mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Up and down arrows issues
> To: For general discussion about using Skim
> skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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>
> "Zoom to Fit? or ?Automatically Resize? (these are different things)?
>
> Does this only happen when you Automatically Resize?
>
> I assume this is when you have single page (or two page), not continuous
> scrolling?
>
> And doesn?t it navigate at all, or only at the first time you press the arrow
> or Page Up?
>
> It seems like PDFKit automatically resizes the PDF a little too much, so it
> just doesn?t fit, on Sierra. This would mean that if you use the arrows or
> page up/down it will first scroll to the top (or bottom) of the page (even if
> that?s just one pixel) before it navigates to the previous (or next) page
> (that?s how the arrows and the page up/down actually work, and should work).
>
> Would that be what you see?
>
> If even at the second arrow it does not navigate, then Apple has really
> screwed things up, it may relayout the document after the scroll to move it
> back.I would not know how to work around such a bug, because it would be
> impossible to know whether we should scroll or change page. And Apple refuses
> to fix the real scrolling/navgiating bug in the first place (it?s been around
> for a few OS versions now).
>
> Christiaan
>
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