If you feel it is worth the time, I would be interested to know what 
benefits you derive from using it.

Bruce

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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Sunshine wrote:

> i believe it is well worth the time envested in the 4 beta is you know what 
> you are doing to get it to work i have had no problems what so ever with the 
> beta 4 releases and kind of find it funny that  some of the minnor bugs 
> people menchen are not that bad or i havent ran accross them as of yet
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Rimer" <jared at 
> lists.jaredrimer.net>
> To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware." 
> <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.0 Beta 2 for Windows
>
>
>>  I've heard nothing but bad things about the skype 4 from this list.  But
>>  keep the news coming, I'd like to see if eventually we'll be able to
>>  upgrade and use it like we do with 3.8.
>>  Jared Rimer
>>  The Jared Rimer Network, where everything is in one place.
>>  http://www.jaredrimer.net
>>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby Jr."
>>  <jimgrims at pacbell.net>
>>  To: "'a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access
>>  software.'" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
>>  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:26 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.0 Beta 2 for Windows
>> 
>> 
>> >  Yep it sucked before and it sucks now.
>> > 
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> >  From: skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com
>> >  [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> >  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:43 AM
>> >  To: 'a list for discussing skype and its use with screen 
>> >  accesssoftware.'
>> >  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.0 Beta 2 for Windows
>> > 
>> >  I installed it earlier on today, and as far as I can tell they don't 
>> >  seem to
>> >  have fixed anything that needed fixing.
>> >  Cheers
>> >  Alex
>> > 
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> >  From: skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com
>> >  [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of jim grimsby 
>> > Jr.
>> >  Sent: 01 October 2008 15:38
>> >  To: 'a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access 
>> >  software.'
>> >  Subject: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.0 Beta 2 for Windows
>> > 
>> >  Coincidently a gentleman asked about the newest version of Skype this
>> >  morning, and how close it was to release. So here is the latest news 
>> >  from
>> >  the Skype blog on the subject.
>> > 
>> >  I have provided a direct link below for everybody's convenience.
>> > 
>> >  I do hope this helps and that the information is useful.
>> > 
>> >  http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-beta
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  Feed: Skype Blogs
>> >  Posted on: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 1:37 AM
>> >  Author: Mike Bartlett
>> >  Subject: Skype 4.0 Beta 2 for Windows
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  In June we announced the first beta of Skype 4.0, a radical departure 
>> >  from
>> >  any other version we've made before. Since then we've spent a lot of 
>> >  time
>> >  reading and analysing your feedback and we've made a number of changes.
>> > 
>> >  This video is recorded in HD - we recommend viewing it full screen (for
>> >  those of you reading this in an RSS reader, you can watch
>> >  
>> > <http://www.dailymotion.com/SkypeConversations/video/x6vqad_skype-40-beta-2-
>> >  for-windows_tech>  the briefing video here - you can also grab
>> >  
>> > <http://www.dailymotion.com/SkypeConversations/video/x6vqad_skype-40-beta-2-
>> >  for-windows_tech>  the embed code if you want to use this video in your 
>> >  own
>> >  blog)
>> > 
>> >  First, I'd like to talk a little bit about the feedback itself. We had 
>> >  over
>> >  350,000 people trying out Beta 1. We had around 15,000 people giving us
>> >  their comments through the Give feedback button directly in Skype; 
>> >  around
>> >  40,000 through surveys (both online and email) and about 700 comments on
>> >  various blog posts.
>> > 
>> >  Different types of users gave us very different feedback. For example, 
>> >  in
>> >  the Skype forums, where some of our most experienced users hang out, we
>> >  heard a lot more negativity, in particular around screen size. However, 
>> >  in
>> >  our surveys we saw quite the opposite. When we collated all of the 
>> >  feedback
>> >  together, we found that just over 70% of people who tried Beta 1 prefer
>> >  using it to older versions of Skype.
>> > 
>> >  We're confident that this is quite reflective of the entire Skype user 
>> >  base.
>> >  But 70% is not a number we're happy with because we know that many of 
>> >  you
>> >  out there would prefer a more familiar experience, and in particular an
>> >  experience that allows you to work more easily whilst Skype is running 
>> >  in
>> >  the background.
>> > 
>> >  So, today, I'm very happy to announce Beta 2
>> >  <http://www.skype.com/go/download-beta> . It includes a number of 
>> >  changes,
>> >  and most noticeably we've brought back contact groups - although we've
>> >  renamed it contact categories to avoid confusion with group 
>> >  conversations.
>> >  We've also done a lot of work on resizing and introduced a view which
>> >  behaves very much like older versions: compact view. There are also 
>> >  major
>> >  changes to alerts and notifications - it's one of my favourite aspects 
>> >  of
>> >  Beta 2. You'll be glad to see numerous other changes and bugfixes have 
>> >  been
>> >  introduced as well.
>> > 
>> >  Take a quick look at the video below to give you a little preview of 
>> >  what
>> >  you're about to download, then go and give it a test drive yourself.
>> > 
>> >  Download Beta 2 <http://www.skype.com/go/download-beta>
>> > 
>> >  Again, we'd really like to hear your feedback on Beta 2, so don't 
>> >  hesitate
>> >  to let us know what you like, and what you don't:
>> > 
>> >  Give <http://ecustomeropinions.com/popup/survey.php?sid=662462508> 
>> >  feedback
>> >  on Beta 2
>> > 
>> >  We'll launch a third Beta towards the end of the year to address your
>> >  comments on this version and also add a few other features - History 
>> >  being
>> >  the most notable.
>> > 
>> >  Thank you again for your feedback and your patience in waiting for this 
>> >  new
>> >  version - I hope you enjoy using it.
>> > 
>> >   <http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ShareSkypeEn/~4/408041541>
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  View
>> >  
>> > <http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ShareSkypeEn/~3/408041541/skype_4_beta_2_for
>> >  _windows.html>  article...
>> > 
>> >  Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
>> >  latest version of skype go to
>> >  http://www.dlee.org/skype
>> >  To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>> >  http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>> >  thanks and have a wonderful day.
>> > 
>> > 
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>> > 
>> > 
>> >  Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
>> >  latest version of skype go to
>> >  http://www.dlee.org/skype
>> >  To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>> >  http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>> >  thanks and have a wonderful day.
>> > 
>> > 
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>> > 
>> > 
>> >  Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
>> >  latest version of skype go to
>> >  http://www.dlee.org/skype
>> >  To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>> >  http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>> >  thanks and have a wonderful day.
>> > 
>> > 
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>>
>>  Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
>>  latest version of skype go to
>>  http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>  To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>>  http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>>  thanks and have a wonderful day.
>> 
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>
>
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> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
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