The authros of those scripts Doug are GW Micro themselves.  FYI.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]>
To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software." 
<skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] new version of skype


> Lol, quite a thread formed here while I was in the air going from
> Tallinn to Amsterdam. :-)
>
> Answering a few people in one post:
>
> First, Teddy said:
>> Hi Doug, why you not update the scripts for skype 4 beta?
>
> In fact I do have more up-to-date scripts than I've released, but I
> haven't released them yet because I wrote them against betas that are also
> not released yet.  I doubt they'd work as well with what you have,
> compared to the scripts on my web site for Skype 4.
>
> Bruce then put forth:
>> Yeah, Doug is so derelect in his duty. All he does is fly around to talk
>> to the Skype people in person about how to make Skype more accessible. 
>> All
>> he does is dedicate all sorts of time and energy to making it accessible
>> for all of us. All he does is put in tons of work at no charge to us and
>> hardly a word of gratitude from any of us. The nerve!
>
> Well, to be fair, Skype actually paid me for this particular trip.
> This was a contract.  They also paid my air fare to Chicago a few
> months ago as many here may recall.  No one pays me for the scripts,
> but I sort of chose Skype as my personal project to keep up with, and
> I'm happy with the way that's working.  It's always more fun to
> maintain scripts for something I use every day anyway. :)
>
> Jim then presented an analysis of why I haven't released updated beta
> scripts, and it's pretty accurate and appears right below these
> comments of mine, so I won't copy that up here.  As to his suggestion
> for me to script Skype for Window-Eyes, I'm not specifically against
> doing that, but there are a few things in the way:  time is one.  The
> fact that Window-Eyes doesn't work as well as JAWS at console screens,
> where I do much of my work, prevents me from using Window-Eyes except
> when I have a specific need; so I would not naturally be testing
> Window-Eyes Skype scripts while working on other things as things are
> now.  Finally, I was under the impression that the current Window-Eyes
> Skype scripts were a continuing development effort.  Were I to tackle
> Skype script development for Window-Eyes, my first move would probably
> be to talk to the authors of the current scripts so any direction I
> might take would neither uselessly duplicate effort nor upset the
> authors of what's already out there.
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 09:31:18PM -0800, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:
> Hello, I am not Doug of course, but I believe I can help answer this
> question.  As you have indicated in your message Skype 4.0 is still in 
> beta.
> This by definition means that it is still a moving target.  So therefore,
> developing scripts for a beta product takes considerably more time and
> effort than any stable release.
> Before updating the scripts any further Doug  will need to see what 
> internal
> accessibility implementation is made.  for a beta product it would be sort
> of pointless to implement accessibility only to find that internal
> implementation, was made later
> also, if any user interfaces are changed.  The scripts will necessarily 
> need
> to undergo some sort of adjustment.
> Doug is meeting with developers to discuss accessibility implementation I
> think we can all rest assured that once Doug  knows what accessibility
> implementation will be made and what user interface changes will be made
> that Skype scripts for 4.0 will be made available for jaws for Windows.
> I would also love to see Doug   examine window eyes, and perhaps develop
> scripts for Skype for that product as well.  GW micro has provided scripts
> for window eyes, but they are nowhere near as robust as the ones we have 
> for
> jaws.
> I hope this information is useful.
> Thank you for reading.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com
> [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Teddy Bear
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:12 PM
> To: a list for discussing skype and its use with screen accesssoftware.
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] new version of skype
>
> Hi Doug, why you not update the scripts for skype 4 beta?
> Skype : teddybear510
> Windows Live Messenger : toyol_cyber007 at hotmail.com
> Yahoo Messenger : puteri_kencana_dewi1 at yahoo.com.my
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:58 PM
> To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software."
> <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] new version of skype
>
> The Skype 3.x scripts will not work properly with Skype 4.  If you
> want scripts for Skype 4, get them from
> http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype4.php
>
> These are beta scripts, but they are written for Skype 4.
>
>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the
> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
>
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>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
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> "The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere."
>        - Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}
>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
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